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Health care law's unpopularity reaches new highs

Actually, that's just silly. You really want hundreds if names?

No, jut the names of those who "didn't actually read the NIE. They took the briefings as the gospel", as per your claim.

No, read his speech. The facts are the facts.

Read what Kerry said? And you believe John Kerry is well acquainted with the facts? The record speaks for itself. Thats where the facts are, unless you can prove otherwise.

Everyone should have voted no, but lets not pretend he didn't do exactly what he sad he'd do.

He voted yes, along with the majority. He turned squirmy, and against his own country, later.
 
I'm not saying a word about Romney's previous political record. I'm not trying to defend his credibility in general. I am saying that, precisely due to his weak credibility, Romney had no choice but to issue unambiguous and unconditional promises to repeal Obamacare, promises so strong that to renege would mean the instantaneous implosion of his administration.

What "weak credibility"?

We know it was Obama who lied continuously, who had to use a teleprompter, and still keeps lying. And you say it was Romney with the credibility problems? Is that what was being said around the Kool Aid Konvention?
 
Right, no one on the left ever claimed that O could move the masses with his eloquence.

Come to think of it, it's been so long since he's made even a minimally adequate speech on any subject, we all HAVE forgotten, haven't we?

They lost his teleprompter, which is why his "Czars" wouldn't let him comment on Benghazi.
 
I'm not saying a word about Romney's previous political record. I'm not trying to defend his credibility in general. I am saying that, precisely due to his weak credibility, Romney had no choice but to issue unambiguous and unconditional promises to repeal Obamacare, promises so strong that to renege would mean the instantaneous implosion of his administration.

There is no way to implode an administration once it takes office and breaks its promises. That's why sensible people imploded him before get got past the front door.
 
Delusional ramblings and hypothetical constructs are not condusive to a objective debate over the issues.

You, who support a corrupt ideology we are all now witnessing the failure of can't possibly be taken seriously anymore.

Youv'e lost your credibillity.

I didn't expect such a complete surrender in your part. :lamo:lamo:lamo
 
That's right. Conservative blogs and Foxnews carry more influence than the President of the United States! :roll:

You're shocked by this? Misinformation rules this country.
 
The nearly three thousand pages were published less than 72 hours before final passage. Much of the language had never been vetted in committee mark-up sessions. For over three years unpleasant, previously overlooked provisions have popped up on nearly a weekly basis. You are the one who is blindly buying rhetoric and spin.

Again you don't think they share information? Really? You guys are funny. :lamo
 
Yes. Even Max Baucus admitted that he had never read the bill.

Wow, that's two. And even those writing it had no idea what the words were on the age or shared with anyone. :lamo:lamo:lamo
 
With the Obama cheering media to engaging in political assassination of character against conserviative Republicans and the mess we have in choosing a canidate for a Party in the Presidential Primaries one cannot really expect better.

I know. Poor picked on republicans. I mean calling them soviet, communist, socialist, fascist, Kenyan, Muslim terrorists without a birth certificate wanting to destroy American was hard for republicans to deal with, being the pure, soft hearted, sensitive souls they are.

:roll:
 
No, jut the names of those who "didn't actually read the NIE. They took the briefings as the gospel", as per your claim.



Read what Kerry said? And you believe John Kerry is well acquainted with the facts? The record speaks for itself. Thats where the facts are, unless you can prove otherwise.



He voted yes, along with the majority. He turned squirmy, and against his own country, later.

The NIE was linked years ago. And as Kerry did exactly was he said would, it's hard to have credibility when you suggest we shouldn't trust him on this.
 
No, jut the names of those who "didn't actually read the NIE. They took the briefings as the gospel", as per your claim.



Read what Kerry said? And you believe John Kerry is well acquainted with the facts? The record speaks for itself. Thats where the facts are, unless you can prove otherwise.



He voted yes, along with the majority. He turned squirmy, and against his own country, later.

As I assume either you didn't pay attention during the entire Iraq effort, or your memory is really poor, I thought I'd give you a link or two since I had a moment:

Only a handful of senators outside the Intelligence Committee say they read the full 92-page National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq’s ability to attack the U.S. before voting to go to war, according to a survey conducted by The Hill.

Read more: Few senators read Iraq NIE report - The Hill - covering Congress, Politics, Political Campaigns and Capitol Hill | TheHill.com
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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A new biography of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has once again raised the issue of whether members of Congress read a key intelligence report before the 2002 vote to authorize war in Iraq.

Clinton did not read the 90-page, classified National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq, according to "Her Way: The Hopes and Ambitions of Hillary Rodham Clinton."

Records: Senators who OK'd war didn't read*key report - CNN.com

Most people who do that just read the summary and conclusions, don't read the whole document itself. And yeah, that's what the vice president means when he says, "You saw what we saw." Of course that's disingenuous because they didn't see the president's daily brief, and the president's daily brief was saying some things that were not in the National Intelligence Estimate.

Analysis - The October '02 National Intelligence Estimate | The Dark Side | FRONTLINE | PBS
 
As I assume either you didn't pay attention during the entire Iraq effort, or your memory is really poor, I thought I'd give you a link or two since I had a moment:

Only a handful of senators outside the Intelligence Committee say they read the full 92-page National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq’s ability to attack the U.S. before voting to go to war, according to a survey conducted by The Hill.

Read more: Few senators read Iraq NIE report - The Hill - covering Congress, Politics, Political Campaigns and Capitol Hill | TheHill.com
Follow us: @thehill on Twitter | TheHill on Facebook

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A new biography of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has once again raised the issue of whether members of Congress read a key intelligence report before the 2002 vote to authorize war in Iraq.

Clinton did not read the 90-page, classified National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq, according to "Her Way: The Hopes and Ambitions of Hillary Rodham Clinton."

Records: Senators who OK'd war didn't read*key report - CNN.com

Most people who do that just read the summary and conclusions, don't read the whole document itself. And yeah, that's what the vice president means when he says, "You saw what we saw." Of course that's disingenuous because they didn't see the president's daily brief, and the president's daily brief was saying some things that were not in the National Intelligence Estimate.

Analysis - The October '02 National Intelligence Estimate | The Dark Side | FRONTLINE | PBS

Right. And Hillary Rodham Clinton know what happened in Benghazi either. She, like Obama, is way out of her league.
 
Right. And Hillary Rodham Clinton know what happened in Benghazi either. She, like Obama, is way out of her league.

There's more than that there. You know it as well.
 
You are starting to sound like a member of the 42% previously cited....it did not fail, he got it passed. It is being implemented as we speak. No doubt the PR war against it that we are witnessing is amazing, but it is a done deal.

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There is no precedent for the continued widespread opposition to such a "done deal". We're going to have at least one, and maybe two more elections fought over this.
 
I believe this article will highlight that Obama Care will become even more unpopular:

Coverage may be unaffordable for low-wage workers under ObamaCare | Fox News

The main point is that with the law companies can (1) offer a healthcare plan that is 9.5% or less of an employes income (example $21,000 would be $1,995) and would be still too expensive due to cost of living also the deductible can be $3000.00 before the insurance would cover costs. (2) Being offered a health care plan by their employer the are not eligible to apply for individual coverage in systems allowed by the government. (3) Is not eligible for Medicade coverage due to having an income that is higher $15,900.

It's going to become more unpopular as more of the provisions are rolled out.
 
There is no way to implode an administration once it takes office and breaks its promises. That's why sensible people imploded him before get got past the front door.

Yeah, the only problem is that he was running against O.
 
You're shocked by this? Misinformation rules this country.

I know, I know. How else did O-care get enacted in the first place? Hell, how did O wind up in the House House?
 
Again you don't think they share information? Really? You guys are funny. :lamo

In the U.K., the term for what happened to the members who voted for the scheme is that they were WHIPPED.
 
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