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    Re: Health care law's unpopularity reaches new highs

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I don't disagree completely. And people like you and I are part of the unfavorable, something else not admitted by those who often throw out the unpopularness of tis reform. Many wanted more and better.
    Hey, even I think that single payer, as bad as that would be, is preferable to the mess O gave us.
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    Re: Health care law's unpopularity reaches new highs

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    And what magical intervention prevents an increase in medical supplies and personnel? An I barred from producing bandages or starting a medical school?
    Of course you are not barred. But you are...and you will increasingly be...regulated, taxed and price controlled to the point it won't be worth your time, money and effort. THAT is what we are seeing the beginning of right now...and Obamacare isn't even fully implemented and it hasn't been "tweaked".

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    Re: Health care law's unpopularity reaches new highs

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    This will be worse. But in a sad way I want to see the slow realization in the program's supporters of how blind they have been and how willfully they gave away everything regarding their own choices with their bodies to mindless bureaucrats. It's like the moment when you realize your friend just can't be talked out of a stupid stunt so you just sit back and watch the painful lesson unfold.
    This may very well be the outcome of this law, but at the same time I have to hope that it works out. As much as you think you have choice over your own healthcare, you do not have nearly as much. When you are prescribed a medication it is often decided based on which drug was most successfully marketed to your physician or his/her clinic, not the best or most effective, and also on which your insurance company will choose to cover.

    One of my favorite examples of our current health care system is about the kid who needed Tamiflu, but the pharmacy had none on hand and so they had to compound it themselves. When the insurance company denied the request for coverage for a popular medicine that everyone supposedly covers, the pharmacist called and discovered that the NDC of the purified water in the recipe was the problem and they would do nothing about it. And so the insurance company expected the family to pay full price because they didn't cover the water.

    Our healthcare has been corrupted by for-profit principles, and I don't see how any of us, regardless of how much choice we might think we have, will have the best possible care until healthcare becomes non-profit. Unfortunately the only solution besides government intervention is that all healthcare related industries suddenly stop caring about their stock values and prioritize patient care above all else.

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    Re: Health care law's unpopularity reaches new highs

    Quote Originally Posted by wbcoleman View Post
    You know, I sort of hope the Democrats mirror your attitude and fail to respond as support for the scheme continues to diminish.
    If they follow my lead, they'll work to improve it. And may both sides stop with he hyperbolic misinformation.

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    Re: Health care law's unpopularity reaches new highs

    Quote Originally Posted by wbcoleman View Post
    Hey, even I think that single payer, as bad as that would be, is preferable to the mess O gave us.
    The mess is the ack of a system we have even before reform.

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    Re: Health care law's unpopularity reaches new highs

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    If they follow my lead, they'll work to improve it. And may both sides stop with he hyperbolic misinformation.
    Work to improve it? How?
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    Re: Health care law's unpopularity reaches new highs

    Quote Originally Posted by wbcoleman View Post
    Work to improve it? How?
    Stop appeasing the insurance company. A return to the public option would be better. A single payer system better yet. Those would be my suggestions.

    But, as noted earlier by others, some good results in lowering cost have taken place. In many areas, lower cost efforts are making real in roads. This is good. Insurance companies are still able to misrepresent their costs.there s no logical reason for premiums to rise. It's all too convoluted as well, and should be simplified a bit.this came about as a way to appease groups need for support, and to pay for it more indirectly. I prefer a more straightforward approach.

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    Re: Health care law's unpopularity reaches new highs

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Stop appeasing the insurance company. A return to the public option would be better. A single payer system better yet. Those would be my suggestions.

    But, as noted earlier by others, some good results in lowering cost have taken place. In many areas, lower cost efforts are making real in roads. This is good. Insurance companies are still able to misrepresent their costs.there s no logical reason for premiums to rise. It's all too convoluted as well, and should be simplified a bit.this came about as a way to appease groups need for support, and to pay for it more indirectly. I prefer a more straightforward approach.
    Excuse me, the Democrats lost control of the House. You know about that inconvenience, right?
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    Re: Health care law's unpopularity reaches new highs

    Quote Originally Posted by wbcoleman View Post
    Excuse me, the Democrats lost control of the House. You know about that inconvenience, right?
    Yep. I do. But I call on republicans to help as well. Smart is good for both parties.

    Also, my comment concerns what they all should do.

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    Re: Health care law's unpopularity reaches new highs

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yep. I do. But I call on republicans to help as well. Smart is good for both parties.

    Also, my comment concerns what they all should do.
    Step one has to be repeal. Then we can talk.
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