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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Do G.W. Bush's actions excuse in any way what Obama does of his own free will?

    Yes or no, please?
    No.

    I should tell you though yes or no questions are most often used to try and deceive. I stated earlier I welcome you converts. But lets not pretend that for many the only real isn't that we have a democrat in office now.

    And it's still not new. I still don't support it. But it's not we all didn't know it was there and what could happen with it. Only mindlessly suddenly aware Obama haters now notice for the first time.

    But I'll still are you, and pray a republican doesn't get elected and you forget all of the sudden.

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No.

    I should tell you though yes or no questions are most often used to try and deceive. I stated earlier I welcome you converts. But lets not pretend that for many the only real isn't that we have a democrat in office now.

    And it's still not new. I still don't support it. But it's not we all didn't know it was there and what could happen with it. Only mindlessly suddenly aware Obama haters now notice for the first time.

    But I'll still are you, and pray a republican doesn't get elected and you forget all of the sudden.
    I am not pretending anything.

    What Obama authorized was wrong.

    If GWB did as well, he was wrong as well.

    But that, imo, in NO WAY excuses Obama's actions.

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    I am not pretending anything.

    What Obama authorized was wrong.

    If GWB did as well, he was wrong as well.

    But that, imo, in NO WAY excuses Obama's actions.

    If? Are you really going to argue you visit these boards and no idea what Bush did? How old are you?

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    If? Are you really going to argue you visit these boards and no idea what Bush did? How old are you?


    Over 18.


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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post


    Over 18.


    Have a nice day.
    Just wanted to make sure you weren't so young as to have missed it. Nothing more.

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Do G.W. Bush's actions excuse in any way what Obama does of his own free will?

    Yes or no, please?
    No, it sets the precedent. Get it? it's not about the free will of one man, or two... it's about an apparatus that's in place across two administrations of two different parties. It's about the history of how we got here so we can learn from our mistakes.

    This idea that it does not matter what happened in the past is complete crap! And I say that as much to you as to the equally myopic, short sighted, ignorant of history left.

    This didn't start with Obama, but because it was not challenged in the Bush era, of course it would be continued and expanded upon, just as all the little Bushies were told it would when they passed it.

    But it didn't start with Bush either...

    I suggest you read this thread OP....
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-con...ic-spying.html

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Seriously? This is old ****ing news. Where was your outrage during the Bush years?
    It's older than that...

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    I'm talking specifically about general warrantless wiretapping. That can of worms was opened during the Bush era... in the name of protecting against terrorists.
    No, it was opened in the Clinton years by no other than.... Joe Biden. In the name of protecting us against terrorists.

    That's right, Clinton and Biden drafted nearly identical legislation to the Patriot Act back in 1995...

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-con...ic-spying.html

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Razor View Post
    No,
    Thank you.


    Have a nice day.

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Thank you.


    Have a nice day.
    No problem.

    Yes or No, does that change the reality that had Bush/Cheney/Ashcroft not pushed through the Patriot Act and set up the first data collection centers, Obama would not have been able to use it in the manner he did?

    Yes or No, were you aware that before they were for the Patriot Act, the republicans were dead set against it?

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Razor View Post
    No problem.

    Yes or No, does that change the reality that had Bush/Cheney/Ashcroft not pushed through the Patriot Act and set up the first data collection centers, Obama would not have been able to use it in the manner he did?

    Yes or No, were you aware that before they were for the Patriot Act, the republicans were dead set against it?
    Bush (a terrible POTUS) pushed through the Patriot Act - which is an Act I despise.

    That does not excuse Obama's actions ( another terrible POTUS) at all.

    You don't agree?

    Take a wild guess if I care much?


    We are done on this.


    Have a nice day.

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