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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    That's no ad hom attack at all. The Nazis DID say that, if you are not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about. And here you are, saying the same thing.
    Even Putin disagrees with what Obama is doing.

    Putin on NSA leak: Government surveillance shouldn?t break law ? RT News
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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
    "Fly-over" country voted, and The Donald is now POTUS.

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    how bad is it?

    w-stands-for-what's-his-name outpolls (in generic approval) the most transparent president of all time

    Poll: George W. Bush favorability hits milestone - Breanna Edwards - POLITICO.com

    RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Obama Job Approval

    americans are noted for their short memories

    so is obama

    Barack Obama Statement on FISA | Firedoglake

    obama must approve bush too

    he's using, even expanding "exponentially" (the guardian above), all his predecessor's and darth cheney's policies

    ari fleischer says obama is vindicating the extremist neocon

    do you disagree?

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily [W:452]

    the aclu filed suit

    ACLU files lawsuit over National Security Agency call tracking - POLITICO.com

    The American Civil Liberties Union filed a lawsuit Tuesday charging that the telephone call-tracking system disclosed via a leak last week violates the Constitution.

    The suit, claiming First and Fourth Amendment violations, seeks to leverage the top-secret document leaked last week in order to overcome procedural arguments that defeated an earlier ACLU-backed challenge to government surveillance of telephone communications.
    it's unconstitutional, complains the aclu

    according to mojo's david corn (producer of the 47% video), fisa found in an 86 page report that nsa activities were "unreasonable under the 4th amendment"

    (link above)

    the doj is stonewalling release of those problematic pages, they're top secret

    the supreme court ruled 5-4 in february that the civil libertarians lacked standing

    but now, all you need is a phone

    "The practice is akin to snatching every American’s address book—with annotations detailing whom we spoke to, when we talked, for how long, and from where. It gives the government a comprehensive record of our associations and public movements, revealing a wealth of detail about our familial, political, professional, religious, and intimate associations," the ACLU lawsuit says.

    The legal complaint, filed in U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York, names as defendants Director of of National Intelligence James Clapper, Attorney General Eric Holder, NSA Director Keith Alexander, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel (since NSA is technically part of the Defense Department) and FBI Director Robert Mueller.

    Spokespeople for the NSA and the Justice Department had no immediate comment.
    whose side are YOU on?

    are YOU a mushroom (kept in the dark and fed bs)?

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily [W:452]

    As National Security Agency revelations exploded in the media, a Tumblr called “Obama is Checking Your Emails” that spoofs the surveillance went viral.

    The meme, which posted it’s first entry on Sunday, is simple - just photos of President Barack Obama looking over people’s shoulders at their computers or phones.

    The most popular post depicts a young girl leaning back as Obama reads a computer over her shoulder.

    Another popular post shows Obama and some of his top advisers, including Valerie Jarrett and David Axelrod, laughing as they all look at a computer.
    Obama email meme goes viral - Hadas Gold - POLITICO.com

    americans also have a sense of humor

    leno: americans wanted a president who would listen to them

    republican congressman stockman: the only place you can go to make sure no one hears you is msnbc

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily [W:452]

    General Keith Alexander, chief of both the National Security Agency and the U.S. Cyber Command, met with members of the Senate Intelligence Committee for a briefing about the programs used to amass widespread phone records and online activity. The full Senate will meet with Alexander on Thursday.
    General Keith Alexander to brief senators - Burgess Everett and Ginger Gibson - POLITICO.com

    why would anyone believe alexander now?

    During a March 2012 congressional hearing, NSA Director Keith Alexander told Georgia Democratic Rep. Hank Johnson - 14 times - that his agency wasn't engaged in collecting the kind of domestic digital data that has now become the subject of embarrassing disclosures.
    Horrible timing: National Security Agency lists 'Digital Network Exploitation Analyst' internship opening as controversy swirls over digital snooping scandal | Mail Online

    keep feeding those mushrooms

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily [W:452]

    NSA should have to purge their system, including backups. NSA director needs to be fired, lose his pension and go to jail. This is probably the most egregious violation ever in history.
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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily [W:452]

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    From the DNI:

    "As our nation faces the most diverse set of threats I've seen in my 50 years in intelligence, the unauthorized disclosure of two important surveillance programs has inflicted potentially long-lasting and irreversible harm to our ability to identify and respond to those threats. As news coverage of these unauthorized disclosures continues, we need to press on with our mission and not let these disclosures distract us from our intelligence efforts.

    "The articles published in conjunction with these leaks contain numerous inaccuracies, both in describing the purpose of our efforts and in the way they characterize the work that we do. They omit key information regarding how these classified intelligence collection programs are used to prevent terrorist attacks and the numerous safeguards Congress, the FISA Court and the Intelligence Community have put in place to protect privacy and civil liberties."
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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily [W:452]

    The mistake was in trying to take up the question in open session. There's a good answer but it's a classified answer.
    "It's always reassuring to find you've made the right enemies." -- William J. Donovan

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