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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    So, youre ok with Obama continuing it?
    Of course not.
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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    I'm all for it. I think government should also collect every email sent over the wires.

    Government knows what's best for us. That's why we have government--to take care of us.

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Of course not.
    This is old ****ing news
    You dont seem too concerned. We're you outraged when Bush did it?

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    I'm all for it. I think government should also collect every email sent over the wires.

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    That's disturbing.
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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Obama has doubled down on the Bush pat act that libs were in such an uproar over. Now they are suddenly just fine with this. After the IRS thing I feel confident that Obama will not misuse all this info he has been gathering on us though, no worries.

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Seriously? This is old ****ing news. Where was your outrage during the Bush years?
    And where's your outrage now? I don't remember you being a silent observer or critic regarding survellience during the Bush years.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Seriously.... you really think that this did not start under the last guy?
    Nope. But basically shrugging it off and not making any serious condemnation about it now when you routinely used these type of things as a means for attacking bush...Kind of hypocritical, no?

    It's funny...you both want to point fingers and go "HYPOCRITES"...yet at the same breath, if Bush was still in office and this came out I HIGHLY doubt you'd be spending the entire thread barely speaking an ounce of condemnation or disdain upon the program and those doing it. But yes, yes...you two are SHINING examples of calling out Hypocrites with your actions in this thread.



    As to this particular issue, would need to know more to really get a good grasp on it. WE've been marching forever onward past the Security/Liberty tipping point, and while some things have been done in terms of rebalancing the issue I wonder if some of it's not going fast enough. Still, ultimately, I'd take some unfortunate situations like this as collateral damage as things are systematically stripped away over the 10 step backs move of a full repeal.

    In theory, the hope would be that someone akin to Obama's ideology along with a strong Democratic hold at a point in Congress would've resulted in some of the peel back of things more than it has. However, perhaps the GWB warning to the candidates to not speak so certainly on what they'd do with terrorism because they don't have a full understanding of it yet was a sincere one...which would explain why Obama's largely shocked me in many ways concerning his actions, if not words, in terms of this kind of stuff.

    The individual instance may deserve condemnation, but I'd be ill pressed to toss it out on a significant scale with what little we seem to know about the program. What's it's purpose, how it's targetted, etc. How different is it from something like ECHELON (a wonderful program highlighting the idiocy of the notion of "I'm just going to question your sincerity because your guy did it first!" When it comes to survellience, there was always a guy before in some fashion)

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Im seriously considering switch from Verizon because of this. I cant change govt, but I can at least stop paying their enablers.
    You think they haven't/won't ask all the other carriers for the same information?
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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    What did Romney say that shows he was against this?
    Equally important... what did Michael Jackson think about this?

    Alas, he's not longer here to tell us.

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Does Lindsay Graham use Verizon? I'd be interested in his sex life, and whether any details about it can be used against him.

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