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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

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    Jesus dude....I was paying you a complement, and your response is pure vitriol? Get bent!
    That was a load of hypocritical BS
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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by StringBean View Post
    Oh, so the FISA court that ruled the surveillance as Unconstitutional is adjudicated by David Corn?

    Please, at least try.
    Oh, c'mon. David Corn is liberal. It's slightly humorous to observe the left becoming outraged at NSA abuses because liberals are affected by the abuse, and witness the reaction to the abuses of the IRS, don't you think? It's quite a different thing when you become the target.

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Here is the deal. As long as I am not breaking the law, who the hell I make phone calls to is none of the government's ****ing business. Period. Repeat after me - 4th Amdendment.
    Yeah, and if you're doing nothing wrong then you have nothing to worry about. As for the 4th Amendment and this situation, you are absolutely wrong. The government CAN track WHO you call/dial if they need to WITHOUT a warrant. SCOTUS has already ruled on that.

    In Smith v. Maryland , the Supreme Court held that there’s no reasonable expectation of privacy, and thus no Fourth Amendment protection, for the phone numbers people dial (as distinct from the content of the call), because the number dialed is information you voluntarily share with the phone company to complete the call and for billing purposes.
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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    It's important to realize that for all practical purposes of privacy, the NSA spying is no big deal because no one in his right mind would share top secret information with someone else over conventional email, telephone, VOIP, etc. or even encrypted w/standard TLS.

    Top secret data exchanged, for example, within or between hedge funds (i. e. insider trading data) or within or between drug cartels are always encrypted past the ability of the NSA to read it. In the end, the NSA can't get it hands on top secret private data.

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    I don't see the connection with what you posted. So Rubbish.

    But luckily a majority of Americans support this program.
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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily [W:452]

    Lol...those poor libs have NO defense against " The Prof ".

    Keep up the good work exposing the hyopcrites.

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    if you're doing nothing wrong then you have nothing to worry about
    LOL!

    not according to obama

    a "violation of the basic civil liberties of the american people"

    an "abuse of power"

    (link above)

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily [W:452]

    Quote Originally Posted by ProNos View Post
    I don't see the connection with what you posted. So Rubbish.


    But luckily a majority of Americans support this program.
    A " majority " of our electorate supported Obama.

    So what.

    It's apparent the majority " have slipped the surly bonds of " common sense and have defined our path.

    A reality of a desperatly sick economy and a long list of scandals.

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily [W:452]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    It's apparent the majority " have slipped the surly bonds of " common sense and have defined our path.
    The majority of republicans, that is

    Terrorism (4)

    "After 9/11, President Bush authorized government wiretaps on some phone calls in the U.S. without getting court warrants, saying this was necessary in order to reduce the threat of terrorism. Do you approve or disapprove of the President doing this?" N=517 (Form C)


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    ------------------------Approve-------------Disapprove ---------- Unsure

    ALL adults --------------- 51 ----------------- 47 ------------------- 2
    Republicans ------------- 83 ----------------- 16 ------------------- 1
    Democrats -------------- 33 ------------------ 63 ------------------ 4
    Independents ----------- 42 ------------------ 57 ------------------ 1
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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