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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    I'm wondering what part of "...and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause" you do not comprehend?

    Plus, I wonder what you think of the other words in that amendment? Do they mean nothing at all?
    I think Richard Nixon would love this. In fact, if he were alive today, he just might be a Democrat. LOL.
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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    I wish all the partisan polemicists would STFU already. It's their fault that the government has made this kind of power grab. After 9/11 all political observers saw this crap coming, but it was the partisan hacks who constantly defended their overlords who bogged the issue down sufficiently that the government could excuse it. Now look where we are.

    The total morons who defend endless expansion of government security are to blame for this. These idiots swallowed the blue pill of "safety" because they were brainwashed into hating foreign terrorists so much that they were willing to shred their very Constitution.

    It's the natural consequence of demagoguery and emotional hysteria. America ate it up like a baby being spoonfed. Now there is no stopping the flood.

    America's #1 issue right now is that our polity is being consumed by talking heads who know nothing about what it takes to maintain it.

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You're right, it's not Obama's fault that this program exists, but, we are just now finding out how much this program is involved in data collection on our own citizens. I am wondering if Obama made any changes since Bush, or if he instituted new parameters at all...If so, then he is responsible for that.
    the biggest critic of the Obama NRA program is Obama himself at least it was when he was a senator


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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    I wish all the partisan polemicists would STFU already. It's their fault that the government has made this kind of power grab. After 9/11 all political observers saw this crap coming, but it was the partisan hacks who constantly defended their overlords who bogged the issue down sufficiently that the government could excuse it. Now look where we are.

    The total morons who defend endless expansion of government security are to blame for this. These idiots swallowed the blue pill of "safety" because they were brainwashed into hating foreign terrorists so much that they were willing to shred their very Constitution.

    It's the natural consequence of demagoguery and emotional hysteria. America ate it up like a baby being spoonfed. Now there is no stopping the flood.
    It's telling that the representatives who did oppose the Patriot Act starting around 2005 all voted for it originally........................

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    the biggest critic of the Obama NRA program is Obama himself at least it was when he was a senator

    NRA or NSA?
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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    NRA or NSA?
    NSA thanks for pointing out the typo

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by ProNos View Post
    Well that's the sort of creepy moralism on the right. "Your either with us or against us!" You are just plain wrong. Right wing politics is just so pathetic right now and it offers such an easy target.

    Oh, I think the label of "progressive" is something to be proud of. Most Americans agree with me too.. So thanks!
    If you are a progressive, and think that is something to be proud of, then why didn't you choose that as your lean? As for progressivism, Tom Baron has a pretty good opinion piece that I agree with on the subject, here....

    "The core of progressivism is radical egalitarianism, a utopian, immature, idealistic, and impractical version of equality popularized today as "fairness." It is the Liberal/Progressive's most highly regarded ideal above all others. Quite possibly, among many of this group, it is their only ideal and it is often pursued with a religious-like zeal.
    It's the product of a primitive part of the human psyche -- the collectivist way in which groups organized themselves when humans existed primarily in small bands or tribes. Psychology studies have documented the immature sense of equality or fairness that is operational in 4 year olds, where rewards of treats are given for completing certain tasks. When subjects were given the authority to change the amounts of the rewards obtained, the preschoolers invariably redistributed them in equal amounts regardless of the number of tasks completed by the individual subjects who earned the rewards.
    This immature sense of equality or fairness also has a visceral appeal to many adults as well, especially those dictated primarily by emotion and "feelings" rather than by reason. For example, we've all seen interviews with ultraliberal celebrities who emphatically say in justification of their radical egalitarian opinions; "All people are created equal! It says so in our Declaration of Independence!" (Which they disingenuously quote only when convenient for their point of view.) However, people are obviously not equal. If they bothered to carefully read our founding documents and the writings of the men who created them, people are created equal in one respect only -- they are endowed equally with inalienable rights and must be treated equally under the rule of law in the protection of these rights.
    Our founders were learned men who understood that as societies grew and evolved, humans found that a collectivist, egalitarian organization wasn't a feasible way to sustain larger, diverse populations. Because people are different in almost every way, those of differing talents, intellect, physical strength, desires, levels of motivation, and biology (male/female,) gravitated to certain tasks. The division of labor, a critical evolutionary leap forward, spontaneously developed, enabling larger, more complex, and more efficient and prosperous societies to develop.
    Furthermore, differences in remuneration in these advanced orders of civilization will be as infinitely variable as the differences in people and the tasks that they perform. Some will be more capable or better suited to do certain things than others. Some will be more industrious than others. Some will be more successful than others. As a result, some will have "more" than others. Some will even have quite a bit more than others. This is neither good nor bad. This is truly the "fairest" distribution method possible in large, complex, specialized societies. Society, or the collective, or more specifically the "market," decides which tasks are highly valued or in greater demand and rewards them commensurately. What could be more democratic than that in serving the best interest of society? People who perform these high-value tasks with the greatest level of proficiency will be rewarded the most of all. This "system" encourages people to do their best. To aspire to greater levels of achievement because they are incentivized to do so by the "collective," or the society, which progresses because of it."


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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You really expect to be seen as anybody worth responding to when the bolded reveals your true partisanship, yet still have the gall to whine about how partisan others are?
    Jesus dude....I was paying you a complement, and your response is pure vitriol? Get bent!
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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    the biggest critic of the Obama NRA program is Obama himself at least it was when he was a senator

    I heard that the other day....I think there is much about what Obama said running for his first term that was a real awakening when he took the office, with that said, it is hypocrisy, IOW politics.
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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    If you are a progressive, and think that is something to be proud of, then why didn't you choose that as your lean? As for progressivism, Tom Baron has a pretty good opinion piece that I agree with on the subject, here....

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    Progressivism is a scourge not an attribute.....
    Congratulations, you base your hatred of progressives on a strawman.

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