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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

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    We need a way to balance our security with our values. This program certainly within that balance.
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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

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    I see you've bought into the ridiculous notion that the oath these people take means one goddamn thing to them...
    Just think of all those leaders throughout history that cared for the people. Oh wait..

    Well, I'm betting some words being said will change that.

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The way the right wants to blame Obama, as if the right were not equally complicit in these activities, proves that this is just another partisan attack on Obama
    You're right, it's not Obama's fault that this program exists, but, we are just now finding out how much this program is involved in data collection on our own citizens. I am wondering if Obama made any changes since Bush, or if he instituted new parameters at all...If so, then he is responsible for that.
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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You really expect to be seen as anybody worth responding to when so early in your appearance here the bolded reveals your true leanings, yet still have the gall to label yourself an "Independent"?

    Just another liberal progressive ashamed to state it out loud....
    Well that's the sort of creepy moralism on the right. "Your either with us or against us!" You are just plain wrong. Right wing politics is just so pathetic right now and it offers such an easy target.

    Oh, I think the label of "progressive" is something to be proud of. Most Americans agree with me too.. So thanks!
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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You're right, it's not Obama's fault that this program exists, but, we are just now finding out how much this program is involved in data collection on our own citizens. I am wondering if Obama made any changes since Bush, or if he instituted new parameters at all...If so, then he is responsible for that.
    You really expect to be seen as anybody worth responding to when the bolded reveals your true partisanship, yet still have the gall to whine about how partisan others are?
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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Jesus Dude.
    Yes, Jesus agrees too.
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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by ProNos View Post
    Well that's the sort of creepy moralism on the right. "Your either with us or against us!" You are just plain wrong. Right wing politics is just so pathetic right now and it offers such an easy target.

    Oh, I think the label of "progressive" is something to be proud of. Most Americans agree with me too.. So thanks!
    Ignore those who whine about partisanship but post about how good it was when bush* did it, and how horrible it is now that Obama is doing it.
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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by ProNos View Post
    Yes, Jesus agrees too.
    Jesus was a chump. That however has nothing to with my comment. You don't just give up your rights for security. It's just foolish to believe in such a thing.

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by ProNos View Post
    Yes. And it's not just "Obama" doing this. ALL three branches of our government are involved in this program. I support it. I'm not willing to give into the paranoia. We have ZERO evidence that this program has inconvenienced 1 American. Not 1. We need a way to balance our security with our values. This program certainly within that balance.

    This guy Snowden should be vigorously pursued by the FBI and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I suspect that is under way. The real crime here is the fact that a "contractor" was making $200,000 on the American tax payer. That's the real issue. The privatization of government power is a much bigger concern than data mining. We have too many contractors--a Republican lead project naturally--involved in government affairs. We need to get back to a government power being within the hands of sworn government employees not private companies.
    Here is the deal. As long as I am not breaking the law, who the hell I make phone calls to is none of the government's ****ing business. Period. Repeat after me - 4th Amdendment.
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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by ProNos View Post
    Yes. And it's not just "Obama" doing this. ALL three branches of our government are involved in this program. I support it. I'm not willing to give into the paranoia. We have ZERO evidence that this program has inconvenienced 1 American. Not 1. We need a way to balance our security with our values. This program certainly within that balance.

    This guy Snowden should be vigorously pursued by the FBI and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I suspect that is under way. The real crime here is the fact that a "contractor" was making $200,000 on the American tax payer. That's the real issue. The privatization of government power is a much bigger concern than data mining. We have too many contractors--a Republican lead project naturally--involved in government affairs. We need to get back to a government power being within the hands of sworn government employees not private companies.
    I'm wondering what part of "...and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause" you do not comprehend?

    Plus, I wonder what you think of the other words in that amendment? Do they mean nothing at all?

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