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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Obama is getting thrown out via term limits. the rest I can't much speak for.
    Well in the meantime we can focus pressure on the guy who is actually renewing this program, not the guy who signed the bill 10 years ago.

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

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    No spin needed. This is entirely legal and authorized under the Republican led Patriot Act. Funny how "conservatives" (really just hacks) complain now about a program they supported overwhelmingly during the Bush administration. I support the NSA program. All three branches of government are involved in oversight and it's the right thing to do for our security. The real spin here is the false outrage of some on the right. Now we have the right wing going soft on security just so they can score points (probably not) against Obama? That's pathetic. The real losers (along with Republicans last November ) are the American people who need these programs to keep them safe. But security be damned--conservative haters of the Obama rant on--they need to bitch about Obama no matter what. "He's a socialist!!!" and all that other pathology they have circling in their head. Carry on. Republican politics is like watching the WWE now. Pure entertainment. Nothing serious.
    So youre OK with Obama doing this?

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Damn Prof, this article is by David Corn, no less. Amazing.

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by ProNos View Post
    No spin needed. This is entirely legal and authorized under the Republican led Patriot Act. Funny how "conservatives" (really just hacks) complain now about a program they supported overwhelmingly during the Bush administration. I support the NSA program. All three branches of government are involved in oversight and it's the right thing to do for our security. The real spin here is the false outrage of some on the right. Now we have the right wing going soft on security just so they can score points (probably not) against Obama? That's pathetic. The real losers (along with Republicans last November ) are the American people who need these programs to keep them safe. But security be damned--conservative haters of the Obama rant on--they need to bitch about Obama no matter what. "He's a socialist!!!" and all that other pathology they have circling in their head. Carry on. Republican politics is like watching the WWE now. Pure entertainment. Nothing serious.
    You really expect to be seen as anybody worth responding to when so early in your appearance here the bolded reveals your true leanings, yet still have the gall to label yourself an "Independent"?

    Just another liberal progressive ashamed to state it out loud....
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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    So youre OK with Obama doing this?
    Yes. And it's not just "Obama" doing this. ALL three branches of our government are involved in this program. I support it. I'm not willing to give into the paranoia. We have ZERO evidence that this program has inconvenienced 1 American. Not 1. We need a way to balance our security with our values. This program certainly within that balance.

    This guy Snowden should be vigorously pursued by the FBI and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I suspect that is under way. The real crime here is the fact that a "contractor" was making $200,000 on the American tax payer. That's the real issue. The privatization of government power is a much bigger concern than data mining. We have too many contractors--a Republican lead project naturally--involved in government affairs. We need to get back to a government power being within the hands of sworn government employees not private companies.
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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Damn Prof, this article is by David Corn, no less. Amazing.
    Oh, so the FISA court that ruled the surveillance as Unconstitutional is adjudicated by David Corn?

    Please, at least try.

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by ProNos View Post
    Yes. And it's not just "Obama" doing this. ALL three branches of our government are involved in this program.
    The way the right wants to blame Obama, as if the right were not equally complicit in these activities, proves that this is just another partisan attack on Obama
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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by ProNos View Post
    Yes. And it's not just "Obama" doing this. ALL three branches of our government are involved in this program. I support it. I'm not willing to give into the paranoia. We have ZERO evidence that this program has inconvenienced 1 American. Not 1. We need a way to balance our security with our values. This program certainly within that balance.

    This guy Snowden should be vigorously pursued by the FBI and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I suspect that is under way. The real crime here is the fact that a "contractor" was making $200,000 on the American tax payer. That's the real issue. The privatization of government power is a much bigger concern than data mining. We have too many contractors--a Republican lead project naturally--involved in government affairs. We need to get back to a government power being within the hands of sworn government employees not private companies.
    I see you've bought into the ridiculous notion that the oath these people take means one goddamn thing to them...
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