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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    most people don't listen to them
    is the lady listening?

    NYT: Obama admin 'has lost all credibility' - POLITICO.com

    or being listened to?

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    you don't know what you're talking about
    lol. okay.

    obama's a liar
    uhhh...okay? I'm talking about intelligence operations. It's clear that you're just talking about Obama. hahahahah, you're cute though
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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Well of course we have the government we have. Our elected officials have been forcing their style of government upon us since the process began.

    What I find so interesting depressing is that so many citizens condone and support government mischief. They rationalize it, and then wonder when the cumulative effects leads to these sorts of things.
    And some people think normal things are mischievous. They'll always think that, until it comes time for them to be responsible for the safety of others, I bet.
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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    The NSA is the NSA regardless of who the president is. Very few people in those agencies (NSA, FBI, CIA, DIA, NGA, etc) give a **** about republicans or democrats. They do their jobs regardless, and don't care what Maddow or Limbaugh are spouting off about.
    And the same was said about the IRS
    if the IRS which is also supposed to be a nonpartisan agency was used for political gains why are you so sure those other agencies wont be used for the same?

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    normal things
    obama: "violation of the basic civil liberties of the american people," "abuse of power"

    us intelligence official (quoted by isikoff): "unreasonable under the 4th amendment"

    odni: "circumvented the spirit of the law"

    fisa court: "reached the same conclusion"

    (links above)

    I'm talking about...
    tell your mom, she might care

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    And some people think normal things are mischievous. They'll always think that, until it comes time for them to be responsible for the safety of others, I bet.
    Responsible for the safety of others? Do you mean like a bus driver is responsible for the safety of his passengers? Or a school teacher responsible for the safety of her students, or a physician responsible for the safety of his patients while under his care?

    I consider "normal things", as you use the term, to mean legal things. I consider "mischief" to mean "illegal" things, notwithstanding the differences between petty crimes and serious crimes.

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    I don't know anything about the IRS. I know about intel work.

    Besides, the Tea Party is explicitly against taxes- no surprise the tax agency would **** with them. Is there a group likewise against intelligence collection? If so, they'll be looked at more, regardless of politics.
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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Responsible for the safety of others? Do you mean like a bus driver is responsible for the safety of his passengers?
    lol no

    Or a school teacher responsible for the safety of her students, or a physician responsible for the safety of his patients while under his care?
    lol no

    Hundreds of thousands of people, that you don't know.

    I consider "normal things", as you use the term, to mean legal things. I consider "mischief" to mean "illegal" things, notwithstanding the differences between petty crimes and serious crimes.
    Oh, so it's just about what an authority deems legal or illegal? Interesting. That can be pretty fluid.
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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    no surprise the tax agency would **** with them
    LOL!

    you can say that again

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    LOL!

    you can say that again
    are you still talking about republicans and democrats or something?
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