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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    lol, yeah, I do. Of course there's mistaken collection. That happens all the time.

    Uh oh, are you getting outraged, too? how cute lol
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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Hilarious. Outrage over metadata.

    If the government didn't do it, there would be outrage that the government doesn't even bother with the most rudimentary of security.

    People are gonna be outraged no matter what; they want to be.
    Its not the collection of the data that has me upset. its who is collecting the data and what they do with it that has me concerned. this administration has given me more then enough reasons not to trust them with anything

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    Its not the collection of the data that has me upset. its who is collecting the data and what they do with it that has me concerned. this administration has given me more then enough reasons not to trust them with anything
    The NSA is the NSA regardless of who the president is. Very few people in those agencies (NSA, FBI, CIA, DIA, NGA, etc) give a **** about republicans or democrats. They do their jobs regardless, and don't care what Maddow or Limbaugh are spouting off about.
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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    That happens all the time
    LOL!

    the admin certainly hopes not

    The matter was reported to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, whose judges required that all the data be destroyed, [Obama's former ODNI Director Dennis Blair] said.

    Another former senior official, who asked not to be identified, confirmed Blair’s recollection and said the incident created serious problems for the Justice Department, which represents the NSA before the federal judges on the secret court.

    The judges “were really upset about this,” said the former official. As a result, Attorney General Eric Holder pledged to the judges that the intelligence agencies would take steps to correct the problem as a condition of renewing the NSA’s surveillance program.

    In another instance that was made public in July 2012, a U.S. intelligence official acknowledged in a letter to Democratic Sen. Ron Wyden of Oregon that “on at least one occasion” the national security court found that “some collection” by the intellligence community “was unreasonable under the Fourth Amendment” to the U.S. Constitution. The official also wrote that the Office of the Director of National Intelligence believed that the government’s collection of information “has sometimes circumvented the spirit of the law” and that “on at least one occasion” the national security court had “reached this same conclusion.”

    Blair declined to say how many times the NSA had had to report the improper collection of information to the court, but indicated it had happened more than once. A spokesman for current DNI Clapper declined comment.
    (isikoff above)

    what an idiot

    obama, i mean

    why did clapper lie to wyden?

    why did nsa director keith alexander tell congressman hank johnson 14 times that digital data was not being collected?

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    LOL!

    the admin certainly hopes not
    Uhhh...okay? I don't care about the admin. Do you?

    Inadvertent collection happens all the time. If it goes over a certain amount of time, they file a report, destroy the info, and move on. If it doesn't, they just destroy it and move on.

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Hilarious. Outrage over metadata.

    If the government didn't do it, there would be outrage that the government doesn't even bother with the most rudimentary of security.

    People are gonna be outraged no matter what; they want to be.
    And some people, perhaps most, will happily accept and even defend all manner of government mischief and illegality. So it is, that we have the government we deserve.

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    And some people, perhaps most, will happily accept and even defend all manner of government mischief and illegality. So it is, that we have the government we deserve.
    And some people will whine about anything. Luckily, most people don't listen to them, because even the worst among us don't deserve the type of government they would force upon us.
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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Inadvertent collection happens all the time
    you don't know what you're talking about

    I'm glad I could be of service to you
    link?

    LOL!

    The percentage of Americans who believe President Barack Obama’s administration has poor ethical standards is higher than that measured by Gallup at various points during presidencies of George W. Bush and Bill Clinton, a new poll finds.

    Thirty-two percent of those surveyed said top Obama officials have “poor” ethics, according to a Gallup poll on Friday. This compares with figures of 29 percent for George W. Bush, 21 percent for Bill Clinton, 7 percent for George H.W. Bush, and 15 percent for Ronald Reagan, pollsters said.

    Ethical standards were rated on a four-step scale - “excellent,” “good,” “not good,” and “poor.”
    Gallup: 32% say White House ethics 'poor' - Rebecca Elliott - POLITICO.com

    obama's a liar

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    And some people will whine about anything. Luckily, most people don't listen to them, because even the worst among us don't deserve the type of government they would force upon us.
    Well of course we have the government we have. Our elected officials have been forcing their style of government upon us since the process began.

    What I find so interesting depressing is that so many citizens condone and support government mischief. They rationalize it, and then wonder when the cumulative effects leads to these sorts of things.

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