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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    I am with you on this I just wish the media would treat this seriously.
    The media is controlled by the same oligarchy that controls our government. They are not going to try to encourage dissent.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    cnn is breaking live, 5pm pacific

    "us govt mining data, washington post: nsa, fbi tapping into servers looking at emails, videos, etc"

    "9 internet companies, facebook, google, apple, others"

    "new info from washington post, the guardian"

    fyi, stay tuned

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Seriously? This is old ****ing news. Where was your outrage during the Bush years?
    Did Bush do this? He didn't. Did he? Thank you for playing.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    I am with you on this I just wish the media would treat this seriously.
    The media is in the tank for Obama. You know that.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Did Bush do this? He didn't. Did he? Thank you for playing.
    He certainly got the ball rolling in a big way. Obama is just carrying on in good ol' G. W. tradition.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Since the court order was just issued in April, I don't see how this can be considered old news. Not surprised Bush would be blamed though.
    Of course the, "but...but...but...Bush did it!", defense eas going to get used.
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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    uh oh...

    coverups, secrets, espionage, enemies...

    let obama make this perfectly clear...

    Reports that the Obama administration has been collecting the phone records of millions of Verizon customers in the U.S. could contradict statements made by top officials who previously claimed the government was not holding data on Americans.

    Director of National Intelligence James Clapper was asked at a March hearing whether the National Security Agency collects any data on millions of Americans.

    "No sir ... not wittingly," Clapper responded, acknowledging there are cases "where inadvertently, perhaps" the data could be collected.

    NSA Director Gen. Keith Alexander also told Fox News last year that the agency does not "hold data on U.S. citizens."
    NSA reportedly collecting phone records of millions, though officials had denied holding 'data' on Americans | Fox News

    more from the aclu and other civil libertarians:

    But Jameel Jaffer, American Civil Liberties Union deputy legal director, called the measure "beyond Orwellian."

    "From a civil liberties perspective, the program could hardly be any more alarming. It's a program in which some untold number of innocent people have been put under the constant surveillance of government agents," Jaffer said in a statement.

    "The National Security Agency's seizure and surveillance of virtually all of Verizon's phone customers is an astounding assault on the Constitution," Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., said.

    One civil liberties group called this the "broadest surveillance order to ever have been issued."

    "It requires no level of suspicion and applies to all Verizon subscribers anywhere in the U.S.," the Center for Constitutional Rights said in a statement.
    NSA reportedly collecting phone records of millions, though officials had denied holding 'data' on Americans | Fox News

    surprised?

    go to chicago

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Been going on since Bush. If you supported the Patriot Act, you're part of the problem. Status Quo, this ain't just Obama. Obama is merely Bush II.
    So youre ok with Obama continuing it?

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    So youre ok with Obama continuing it?
    Did I say that?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    holder can't say

    and you know what that means

    In the wake of revelations the U.S. government secretly asked Verizon for massive amounts of data on tens of millions of phone calls, Sen. Mark Kirk (R-Ill.) asked Attorney General Eric Holder on Thursday if the National Security Agency monitored calls placed from the Capitol.

    Holder said there was no intention to "spy" on Congress and said he would not go into details on the calls in a public setting.

    "Mr. Attorney General, I want to take you to the Verizon scandal and -- which I understand takes us to possibly monitoring up to 120 million calls. You know, when government bureaucrats are sloppy, they're usually really sloppy. Want to just ask, could you assure to us that no phones inside the Capitol were monitored of members of Congress that would give a future executive branch, if they started pulling this kind of thing off, would give them unique leverage over the legislature?

    Holder replied, "With all due respect, Senator, I don't think this is an appropriate setting for me to discuss that issue. I'd be more than glad to come back in a -- in an appropriate setting to discuss the issues that you have raised," noting they were speaking in public.

    Kirk, a Naval intelligence officer, was not satisfied with Holder's answer.

    Said Kirk, "I would interrupt you and say the correct answer would be say no, we stayed within our lane, and I'm assuring you we did not spy on members of Congress."
    Sen. Mark Kirk pokes at Eric Holder: Did NSA spy on Congress? - Lynn Sweet

    cuz if a congressperson uses a phone...

    holder testified this morning in senate appropriations (it is beyond amazing that you don't know that, you are rank amateur, it's cuz you talk so much more than you read)

    senator kirk, by the way, sitting in obama's junior illinois seat, is the most liberal republican i have ever encountered, i recall him (a long time ago) acutally equivocating on partial birth abortion

    mr kirk suffered a pretty severe stroke in january, 2012, and missed a year, he emotionally returned about 6 months ago (you're sposed to know that too, if you're gonna talk around pro's, that is)

    stay tuned

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