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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yeah, right

    You just made crap up, and now you're denying it
    I think you're over-reacting to a tongue in cheek comment. Sensenbrenner certainly could be a hypocrite - particularly for his lack of imagination regarding how such a law could be used.

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    As I have been saying since the Patriot Act was first proposed: Never seek political power you wouldn't trust to your worst enemy.

    Once you get that power it is a foregone conclusion that one day your opponent will too.
    Right you are!

    This is why we have a constitution--to keep government within its lawful confines.

    True, the american people were deceived by the events of 911 that gave us this, but the american people are just like their elected representatives who voted in the patriot act without reading it. We deserve the government we have for being so lazy, complacent, and unquestioning.

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    And we got to this point because good old George Bush passed the Patriot Act. What's the difference? Allowing phone tapping of "suspected terrorists" without proof. Patriot Act opened the flood gates to this. And you quoted a court order, therefore the legality is validated by the court. Just another attempt to make the Obama Administration look like the enemy.
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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Right you are!

    This is why we have a constitution--to keep government within its lawful confines.

    True, the american people were deceived by the events of 911 that gave us this, but the american people are just like their elected representatives who voted in the patriot act without reading it. We deserve the government we have for being so lazy, complacent, and unquestioning.
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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    And we got to this point because good old George Bush passed the Patriot Act. What's the difference? Allowing phone tapping of "suspected terrorists" without proof. Patriot Act opened the flood gates to this. And you quoted a court order, therefore the legality is validated by the court. Just another attempt to make the Obama Administration look like the enemy.
    Obama IS the enemy.

    And so was George Bush.
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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    And we got to this point because good old George Bush passed the Patriot Act. What's the difference? Allowing phone tapping of "suspected terrorists" without proof. Patriot Act opened the flood gates to this. And you quoted a court order, therefore the legality is validated by the court. Just another attempt to make the Obama Administration look like the enemy.
    The "most transparent administration in a generation" secretly collecting the phone records of millions of Americans.

    Do you consider him living up to his own standards?

    Or is it just petty politics to point out the hypocrisy...

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    Oh well if the govt rules that the govt can get a list of every phone call I make, then it must be ok.

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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Obama IS the enemy.

    And so was George Bush.
    Fair enough assessment there. I should have worded that differently. Probably more like "Trying to make Obama look even worse then he already is"
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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by StringBean View Post
    The "most transparent administration in a generation" secretly collecting the phone records of millions of Americans.

    Do you consider him living up to his own standards?

    Or is it just petty politics to point out the hypocrisy...
    I never claimed he was the best President ever. I never claimed his Administration was the transparent. I never even intended to make it sound like I was defending Obama. I am against Obama's politics as much as the next guy. I simply want to point out we need to be behind the Administration instead of tearing it down. Obama isn't the enemy, even if you don't like his politics.
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    Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    And we got to this point because good old George Bush passed the Patriot Act. What's the difference? Allowing phone tapping of "suspected terrorists" without proof. Patriot Act opened the flood gates to this. And you quoted a court order, therefore the legality is validated by the court. Just another attempt to make the Obama Administration look like the enemy.
    Obama is as bad as Bush for this. He has the choice to use the tool or not. He failed. Bush did too.
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