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    Re: Emails of top Obama appointees remain a mystery

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Really? More of "Look at Bush!"
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    Re: Emails of top Obama appointees remain a mystery

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Thank you for the clarification. As I say, my understanding is that my employer has the right to access my Yahoo account if I use it on my work computer, etc.
    I couldn't speak to your employers rights in that particular regard. I just don't know enough about the law in that area but I suspect that if your employer had reasonable cause to believe that you were using your Yahoo account from work for an illegal activity that impacted him or her then they could get that information with a warrant. I also suspect that your employer could have a policy that prohibits employees from using third party accounts on company time and, perhaps, check to see if you were doing so but I'm not so sure about getting access to that account just for the heck of it.

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    Re: Emails of top Obama appointees remain a mystery

    And look what you've just done. Edit: Response to David.

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    Re: Emails of top Obama appointees remain a mystery

    Personally I don't think you could effectively govern or discuss problems and decisions without the ability to have some of it remain secret. Although of course we want to know what our officials are doing and saying, but that can't possibly extend to everything.

    For example in the Army if a Soldier gets into trouble he may appear before the commander to have the charges read against him and then he/she is typically sent out of the room while the leadership discusses what they think they should do. They talk about what he's done what kind of person he is, what sort of punishments each one thinks the Soldier the deserves etc. Once that is complete the Soldier is brought back in to hear the decision of the commander, but it would serve no purpose for him to know everything that is said in there. He doesn't need to know which leaders wanted harsher or softer punishments, all he needs to know is that a decision was reached and everyone who is his superior is going to act on that decision regardless of their personal opinion.

    Likewise I could totally understand the desire of a President or someone else with decision making authority to want his discussions with his advisors or subordinates to not be entirely public, so that once a decision is made they can present themselves to the public as a united front all working towards the same end.

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    Re: Emails of top Obama appointees remain a mystery

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Can you show where the use of email alias are illegal in the government? Sure they complicate tracking a person's email, but I am not sure the use of them is illegal. The are doing governments business on government servers and that to me is what is important.

    Bush Administration Appointees Also Used 'Secret E-mail Addresses' | ThinkProgress

    The Associated Press reported Tuesday that some Obama administration officials utilize non-publicly listed e-mail addresses in addition to their publicly listed ones. But a ThinkProgress Freedom of Information Act request revealed that this common practice was also utilized by the George W. Bush administration and in no way shields those accounts from public records laws
    Not only do you cherry pick others posts, and only read what you want to read in them, but it seems that even when you go to your incredibly biased leftist sites to refute something, you cherry pick that as well....It's right there in your own article....

    "Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-TN) told Fox and Friends that the use of “secret” secondary e-mails by administration officials could violate public records law, as investigators might not be able to subpoena accounts they did not know about."
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    Re: Emails of top Obama appointees remain a mystery

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    This is complete Bull! It is corrupt, it is illegal, and it is further evidence that this administration cares very little about the law, or the peoples right to oversee their governments actions.
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    Not only do you cherry pick others posts, and only read what you want to read in them, but it seems that even when you go to your incredibly biased leftist sites to refute something, you cherry pick that as well....It's right there in your own article....

    "Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-TN) told Fox and Friends that the use of “secret” secondary e-mails by administration officials could violate public records law, as investigators might not be able to subpoena accounts they did not know about."
    I didn't cherry pick anything j, I took the first paragraph of the article. What Alexander said on a very bias program means nothing. Can you support the crap you wrote in the OP?

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    Re: Emails of top Obama appointees remain a mystery

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I didn't cherry pick anything j, I took the first paragraph of the article. What Alexander said on a very bias program means nothing. Can you support the crap you wrote in the OP?
    For normal people I have, and unwittingly so have you....For all the leftist progressive hacks out there, probably nothing could meet their bar of support.
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    Re: Emails of top Obama appointees remain a mystery

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    For normal people I have, and unwittingly so have you....For all the leftist progressive hacks out there, probably nothing could meet their bar of support.
    IOW, you have nothing.

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    Re: Emails of top Obama appointees remain a mystery

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    IOW, you have nothing.
    *yawn* you bore me Pete.
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    Re: Emails of top Obama appointees remain a mystery

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    *yawn* you bore me Pete.
    You make a baseless claim about the law and when you're called on it, you're going to sleep? Figures.

    When you looked the TP article did you read:


    The AP story gives the impression that this is unprecedented, making no mention of the use of the multiple addresses by previous administrations.

    U.S. Senators and Representatives also typically have non-published e-mail addresses, though Congress exempted itself from Freedom of Information laws. It seems obvious that political figures of both parties would need an unlisted e-mail address that cannot be easily guessed for communications with advisers and colleagues — just as cabinet secretaries private cell phone numbers would not be publicly available, though their main office number would be.

    Despite Alexander’s concern, the release of this information shows that both the public and private email addresses are public record and that any legitimate FOIA request or subpoena for records would include those sent to and from both addresses.

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