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    Re: Emails of top Obama appointees remain a mystery

    I don't have a problem with government officials using secondary and tertiary email accounts but it is a problem if they aren't turning them over when ordered to do so for an investigation. I don't know about the rest of you bet my inbox can fill up pretty doggone quickly when dozens of people are sending 10MB PDF's and such. I HAVE to have multiple email addresses to handle certain things as well as Dropbox accounts and other file sharing software. I also have a few email accounts that NEVER get used for business. They are just there to collect viagra ads and notifications that I won the Nigerian lottery. Hell, if someone requested a copy of all my email accounts I'm not sure that I could comply. The point is that it's stupid to get bent out of shape about multiple accounts. If you're going to get pissed off then do so because they are intentionally withholding information.

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    Re: Emails of top Obama appointees remain a mystery

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I don't have a problem with government officials using secondary and tertiary email accounts but it is a problem if they aren't turning them over when ordered to do so for an investigation. I don't know about the rest of you bet my inbox can fill up pretty doggone quickly when dozens of people are sending 10MB PDF's and such. I HAVE to have multiple email addresses to handle certain things as well as Dropbox accounts and other file sharing software. I also have a few email accounts that NEVER get used for business. They are just there to collect viagra ads and notifications that I won the Nigerian lottery. Hell, if someone requested a copy of all my email accounts I'm not sure that I could comply. The point is that it's stupid to get bent out of shape about multiple accounts. If you're going to get pissed off then do so because they are intentionally withholding information.
    That's the point....They are intentionally doing so, and the e-mails in question are illegal. So, just to be clear, are you saying that you are fine with government officials keeping illegal e-mail accounts?
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    Re: Emails of top Obama appointees remain a mystery

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That's the point....They are intentionally doing so, and the e-mails in question are illegal. So, just to be clear, are you saying that you are fine with government officials keeping illegal e-mail accounts?
    I have no problem with government employees having multiple email accounts as long as those accounts and their content are disclosed when subpoenaed or in compliance with a valid FOIA request. Government employees should comply with the same laws I have to comply with.

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    Re: Emails of top Obama appointees remain a mystery

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well then, let me clear it up for you....The article outlined the agencies using private e-mails for government business, and I didn't tie it to Obama, in fact I said his administration...Second, you seem to think that this administration can do no wrong, even when it is clearly illegal. And lastly, your attempt to misrepresent the topic here should be considered a derailing of the thread topic, continue that and you will not be welcome in the thread.

    Thank you.
    Can you show where the use of email alias are illegal in the government? Sure they complicate tracking a person's email, but I am not sure the use of them is illegal. The are doing governments business on government servers and that to me is what is important.

    Bush Administration Appointees Also Used 'Secret E-mail Addresses' | ThinkProgress

    The Associated Press reported Tuesday that some Obama administration officials utilize non-publicly listed e-mail addresses in addition to their publicly listed ones. But a ThinkProgress Freedom of Information Act request revealed that this common practice was also utilized by the George W. Bush administration and in no way shields those accounts from public records laws

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    Re: Emails of top Obama appointees remain a mystery

    Who doesn't use a work and non-work email? I don't want a buddy sending me his fantasy football drafting plan in my work email.
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    Re: Emails of top Obama appointees remain a mystery

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I have no problem with government employees having multiple email accounts as long as those accounts and their content are disclosed when subpoenaed or in compliance with a valid FOIA request. Government employees should comply with the same laws I have to comply with.
    Exactly

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    Re: Emails of top Obama appointees remain a mystery

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    that was a long time ago..and what difference, at this point, does it make?

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    Re: Emails of top Obama appointees remain a mystery

    Quote Originally Posted by fishinRod View Post
    that was a long time ago..and what difference, at this point, does it make?
    It makes a huge difference, they were conducting government business on non-government servers which made their emails untraceable through FOIAs.

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    Re: Emails of top Obama appointees remain a mystery

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    That was kind of my point. If he's going to ask people "Did you care when Bush did it?!" then he should at least answer the question himself. Being "Selectively outraged" about "selective outrage" is kind of funny to me, which is what I was highlighting.
    Actually his comparison fails because they are different controversies. This is a controversy because some had a separate, nonpublic email account. Bush's was a controversy because it was RNC mailboxes that operated under different rules than what the WH is supposed to for email control. In point of fact though, you can not be overly concerned about these email accounts, as long as they adhere to the law(and so far there is no real evidence otherwise), and still be outraged at what Bush's WH did with the email accounts and it would not be selective outrage because they are different situations.
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    Re: Emails of top Obama appointees remain a mystery

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well then, let me clear it up for you....The article outlined the agencies using private e-mails for government business, and I didn't tie it to Obama, in fact I said his administration...Second, you seem to think that this administration can do no wrong, even when it is clearly illegal. And lastly, your attempt to misrepresent the topic here should be considered a derailing of the thread topic, continue that and you will not be welcome in the thread.

    Thank you.
    I do think it's an attempt to derail the thread. I'd like to talk about these e-mails and this particular situation--the thread topic, I mean.

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