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    Re: Emails of top Obama appointees remain a mystery

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Actually, what Bush did was worse because they used RNC email accounts. At
    least with Obama is using government email addresses.
    You have " proof " right ? Other than WIKI ?

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    Re: Emails of top Obama appointees remain a mystery

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    Who gives a **** what Bush did or didn't do? Wrong is wrong no matter who does it, playing the selective outrage game is silly and presumptuous.
    That was kind of my point. If he's going to ask people "Did you care when Bush did it?!" then he should at least answer the question himself. Being "Selectively outraged" about "selective outrage" is kind of funny to me, which is what I was highlighting.

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    Re: Emails of top Obama appointees remain a mystery

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    That was kind of my point. If he's going to ask people "Did you care when Bush did it?!" then he should at least answer the question himself. Being "Selectively outraged" about "selective outrage" is kind of funny to me, which is what I was highlighting.
    Well its a logical fallacy (tu quoque) and its tiresome. When outraged I tire of explaining that yes I was outraged when the other party did it too, I'm not a hack, now can we get back to the genuine outrage?

    Posing the question presumes the person asked is a partisan hack with no real principles.
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    Re: Emails of top Obama appointees remain a mystery

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    You have " proof " right ? Other than WIKI ?
    Wiki has footnotes you can check.

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    Re: Emails of top Obama appointees remain a mystery

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    That was kind of my point. If he's going to ask people "Did you care when Bush did it?!" then he should at least answer the question himself. Being "Selectively outraged" about "selective outrage" is kind of funny to me, which is what I was highlighting.
    Obama is using government servers and email addresses so I am not sure what he's doing is illegal as j-mac said.

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    Re: Emails of top Obama appointees remain a mystery

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Wiki has footnotes you can check.
    I love it when people dislike Wiki's "liberal bias." They could log-in and change it themselves.

    Of course then they wouldn't be victims anymore...


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    Re: Emails of top Obama appointees remain a mystery

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    That was kind of my point. If he's going to ask people "Did you care when Bush did it?!" then he should at least answer the question himself. Being "Selectively outraged" about "selective outrage" is kind of funny to me, which is what I was highlighting.

    The selective outrage is a good point. However, the fact that it was done in past administrations means it is simply a carry-over practice. The fact that it only goes back to the last administration is only because we don't recycle Presidents often enough these days. Prior to the Clinton administration, e-mail wasn't common (whether or not Al Gore invented it ). So the policy isn't likely to have changed until the Bush admin.

    I don't have a problem with them having separate e-mails. My work e-mail is available to customers, but I don't give them my personal e-mail. Likewise they can call me on the phone, but I don't give them my cell phone number. Government people who work with classified information should have a secure e-mail that they can use to discuss it. Truthfully, how many e-mails do you think a cabinet secretary gets from the general public? It's probably a lot (depending on the Secretary. State probably gets more than HHS). They should have an address that's not available to the public so that they can get things done without responding to inquiries about the Presidential Time Travel Limo at Area 51.


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    Re: Emails of top Obama appointees remain a mystery

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    This is complete Bull! It is corrupt, it is illegal, and it is further evidence that this administration cares very little about the law, or the peoples right to oversee their governments actions.
    Wait. Wait. Wait. Aren't you the same people that says government has no reason to read your emails? Yet, when it is found that complete stories of scandals cannot be made public because officials dare communicate with each other using private emails, that means that it's suddenly OK for the government to ask for emails from private citizens. What exactly have the public officials done wrong, or is this just another witch hunt?

    Look I understand the implications of this story, and the hypocrisy that is the Obama administration, but wasn't the Press yelling at Obama for looking at their private emails? So now I guess they want to read there's. Huh funny!
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    Re: Emails of top Obama appointees remain a mystery

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Obama is using government servers and email addresses so I am not sure what he's doing is illegal as j-mac said.
    And it's morally and factually as transparent as everything else Obama has done, so what's to gripe about? I'm with ya. Hell, even Washington did it with anonymous carrier pigeons.

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    Re: Emails of top Obama appointees remain a mystery

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Obama is using government servers and email addresses so I am not sure what he's doing is illegal as j-mac said.
    Well then, let me clear it up for you....The article outlined the agencies using private e-mails for government business, and I didn't tie it to Obama, in fact I said his administration...Second, you seem to think that this administration can do no wrong, even when it is clearly illegal. And lastly, your attempt to misrepresent the topic here should be considered a derailing of the thread topic, continue that and you will not be welcome in the thread.

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