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Roy Hibbert Uses Gay Slur in Post Game Press Conference

So if one of my waiters calls one of my customers "a homo" regardless if he's a flamer or not,that customer has no right to be offended,complain to me (the guy who owns the restaurant) they are eating in,and I have no right to take disciplinary action on that waiter?

that's a different issue. you do-its your business. but if you call a flamer a homo I have no use for a bunch of angry gays trying to prevent other people from doing business with you etc
 
Do you grasp my point regarding the hypocrisy of the OP logic? Organizations should be allowed to have their positions (this is drawn from ~"everyone should have the right to their opinion"), but not the NBA because they're on the other side.

Nonsense.

One must either demand churches marry gays or accept that the NBA can have its policy. Of course, one could do both, but one cannot accept church (and, until recently?) boy scout policy and at the same time give the NBA crap - especially on the grounds of ~"right to opinion".



Right. I get your point. Good luck with trying to get anyone else to see the logic............................
 
What quote are you reading? Because I'm OBVIOUSLY reading something different as I don't see anywhere that he used the term "homo" as an "insult toward" James.



This wasn't calling anyone gay, or insulting anyone for being gay, it was him making a statement that unintentionally could have some innuendo attached to it and qualified that the innuendo wasn't serious or intended.

Was it juvenile? Absolutely. Was it a "Slur", especially something you wantonly compare to Nigger? Absolutely not. Was it an "insult towards" Lebron James? Not at all. At best, it was a comment about the Heat as a team...and it was a COMPLIMENT, that they managed to cause Hibbard to get out of position.

Seriously, if someone was saying he said a juvenile, insensitive thing, that's one thing....but a "Slur?" Comparable to nigger? Insulting towards Lebron James? I think that's just a wonderful example of people immediately grabbing an issue and staking out an ideological position on it because that's the only way they see the world, regardless of facts or reality.

Is that all he said? I don't think they even included the quote in the two articles I read, but I assumed it was worse than that.
 
Isn't it kind of funny how some conservatives here are all of sudden taking the side of labor over the side of the business owners?
 
That's not really comparable.

Am I missing something? WHO in the world did he call a HOMO? He suggested something he meant wasn't meant in a homosexual fashion. Juvenile? Sure. But completely different than the repeated attempts of people in this thread to compare it to calling someone a homo/nigger/etc.

Hey! If you're going to insist I read OPs carefully, I'm going to report you. ;) Seriously, the OPs article didn't actually SAY what he said -- so I just went looking for it:

"I really felt that I let Paul down in terms of having his back (in Game 3) when LeBron was scoring in the post or getting to the paint, because they stretched me out so much, no homo."

WTF does that even MEAN???

Even in this context, I don't get it:

The phrases no homo and pause are slang terms. They parenthetically assert that the speaker of such does not have any homosexual intent and are usually used after an utterance that may have given that impression

Erase all my posts. Ha!
 
LOL :) The OP's story didn't include the quote, which I found rather funny but was a wonderful example of my general thoughts about the media and how a writers unconscious biases play into things. The OP's story wanted to play up "Gay slur" so it's better to leave it up to the imagination HOW he used it. I had happened to hear the quote on the radio today though, so quickly did a google search and found it.

Let's take a word you used earlier; retard. I think it's a bit like that. It's one thing to go "Lebron James is a retard". It's another thing to say "I needed to play better defense. I was lost out there today and made some retarded mistakes". There could still be people upset that he used "retarded" as a synonym for "stupid", but it's far different than using it as a "slur" aimed at someone.

Comedic timing wise, the "No homo" thing is similar in style to the "That's what she said" line. A statement is said that could be construed in some fashion in a particular light and the secondary statement is made in reference to that.
 
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that's a different issue. you do-its your business. but if you call a flamer a homo I have no use for a bunch of angry gays trying to prevent other people from doing business with you etc
Correctly me if I'm wrong,but isn't the NBA pretty much owned by the owners of NBA franchises?

I have no use of employees bringing bad publicity to my business in the first place.
People have the right to boycott any business they feel like.
What they cannot do is physically prevent anyone else from doing business with me.
 
Is that all he said? I don't think they even included the quote in the two articles I read, but I assumed it was worse than that.

Yep. The two controversial statements were:

“You know what, because y’all mother****ers don’t watch us play throughout the year, to tell you the truth,” Hibbert said in his televised interview after the game. “I don’t care if I get fined.”

and

“There was Game 3 here that I felt I let Paul (George) down in terms of having his back when LeBron was scoring in the post or getting into the paint because they stretched me out so much — no homo (laughs) — but I want to be there for him. I think he has a chance to be MVP of this league next year.”

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Correctly me if I'm wrong,but isn't the NBA pretty much owned by the owners of NBA franchises?

I have no us of employees bringing bad publicity to my business in the first place.
People have the right to buycott any business they feel like.What they cannot do is physically prevent anyone else from doing business with me.

true-but the reason why the NBA owners get upset is due to the faux outrage of the PC ninnies.
 
Freedom of speech only applies to the progressives and the duty to tolerate people you disagree with only applies to the conservatives. This is the 21st Century, Man. Get with the program.

Oh please :roll:
 
I said nothing about not punishing him. He is not your twelfth man on the bench that must watch his mouth or risk losing his job and never find his way on a roster again. He is an NBA star and one of the best centers in the league that has the possibility of never finding himself out of the starting role in his entire career. Also, with his skill set and his height there is no one out there that can possibility bring to the floor what he does, so a trade is also off the table. The only thing they can really do is fine him, but that will do nothing from stopping him from saying whatever he wants in the future.

If you want to take context into account, try this: he's a highly paid player and said during the remarks that he didn't care about being fined. Sounds like a smackdown is entirely reasonable.
 
true-but the reason why the NBA owners get upset is due to the faux outrage of the PC ninnies.

Are you an owner of an NBA franchise?
Doesn't matter why the owners got upset,it's well within their rights to do so,and well within their rights to do what they did with Hibbert.
You are a libertarian,I shouldn't have to remind you of that.
 
Are you an owner of an NBA franchise?Doesn't matter why the owners got upset,it's well within their rights to,and well within their rights to do what they did.
You are a libertarian,I shouldn't have to remind you of that.

The point you seem to ignore is that I have no use for people pretending to be upset at what he said. His comment was not something that was grounds for any adult to get upset about
 
If you want to take context into account, try this: he's a highly paid player and said during the remarks that he didn't care about being fined. Sounds like a smackdown is entirely reasonable.

Why would he care? The fine is simply meant to appease the public, not harm him. Besides, what did he actually say that was wrong? People his age say that kind of crap all the time and it's not meant to disparage gays. People are just idiots, like always.
 
If it had been intended in a malicious way then it would be different, but lets be honest there was no intent behind it. I will be honest I am not homophobic or anything of the sort, in fact I am a total proponent for the legalization of same sex marriage and equal rights, but I still use "gay slurs" while messing around with other professionals.
 
Isn't it kind of funny how some conservatives here are all of sudden taking the side of labor over the side of the business owners?

I'm sure it's just a blip that will be rapidly become irrelevant as the course is corrected..................
 
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Why would he care? The fine is simply meant to appease the public, not harm him. Besides, what did he actually say that was wrong? People his age say that kind of crap all the time and it's not meant to disparage gays. People are just idiots, like always.

that's the real point

if he came out and said that he thought that any guy who is gay and tries to play pro ball ought to have the living crap beat out of him every time the gay guy takes the floor or if he said "I am going to rip the head off that gay guy if he ever touches me in a game" then there might be sound reasons for people to be legitimately upset with this player.

the comment he made was far different and what is disgusting is not what he said but those groups that will churn up astro turf outrage in order to gain power or a podium and even worse are the ninnies who will try to appease such indignant hysterics
 
If it had been intended in a malicious way then it would be different, but lets be honest there was no intent behind it. I will be honest I am not homophobic or anything of the sort, in fact I am a total proponent for the legalization of same sex marriage and equal rights, but I still use "gay slurs" while messing around with other professionals.

Exactly like when I talk about throwing Christians to the lions. In no way, shape, or form am I turned on by the idea of watching the sidedroollers torn to pieces........................
 
Why would he care? The fine is simply meant to appease the public, not harm him. Besides, what did he actually say that was wrong? People his age say that kind of crap all the time and it's not meant to disparage gays. People are just idiots, like always.

The fine served at least three purposes.

1. To address players giving profanity-laden interviews.
2. To address players using homosexuality as a pejorative.
3. To address players making statements about not caring about fines.

Given the magnitude of the game, the high pay and profile of the player and the voiced total disregard for financial consequences, his boss was like "oh, yeah"? Tough. I say to him: "suck it up, big guy".
 
The point you seem to ignore is that I have no use for people pretending to be upset at what he said. His comment was not something that was grounds for any adult to get upset about
No offense,but whether you have any use for these people or not,is something I or anyone else here is supposed to care about why?
Don't agree with what the NBA did with Hibbert,maybe you should not watch any of their games?
It's well within your right.
The point you seem to be ignoring is that that is your opinion.
You don't get to determine why people get upset or if it is valid or not.
 
No offense,but whether you have any use for these people or not,is something I or anyone else here is supposed to care about why?
Don't agree with what the NBA did with Hibbert,maybe you should not watch any of their games?
It's well within your right.
The point you seem to be ignoring is that that is your opinion.
You don't get to determine why people get upset or mif it is valid or not.

exactly. I merely voice my opinion and I laugh at groups that try to obtain power by pretending to be upset-be it jesse Jackson and his racist extortion of businesses or hysterical gays who take offense for stuff that no one should take offense.
 
No offense,but whether you have any use for these people or not,is something I or anyone else here is supposed to care about why?
Don't agree with what the NBA did with Hibbert,maybe you should not watch any of their games?
It's well within your right.
The point you seem to be ignoring is that that is your opinion.
You don't get to determine why people get upset or if it is valid or not.

There's no right to not be offended!



Is it backwards day? How are all these conservatives arguing against employer/organization policy? What's next, they wanna make a union to address their anti-homo rights and the associated unfair corpocratic tyranny?
 
As the official spokesman for the Anti-Homo Union of the NBA, I would like to say that limiting our homophobic remarks opens us to charges of homosexuality. This, in turn, results in an unsafe work environment both as a possible victim of bigotry and as someone needing to defend their honor in the face of untenable slander. In order for a more stable and safe work environment, we demand higher pay and unlimited homophobic power belchs.

Power to the people!
 
Where/wgat is the exact phrase he said?

From my understanding he used it at the end of a comment, essentially saying what he said was not homosexual in nature. ie "i love michael joran, the greatest player of all time -- no homo.

It is not a slur in that context.
 
There's no right to not be offended!



Is it backwards day? How are all these conservatives arguing against employer/organization policy? What's next, they wanna make a union to address their anti-homo rights and the associated unfair corpocratic tyranny?

I noticed that back in post #54. tHIS MUST B bIZzAR0DeebatePolytycz.comm.
 
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