Last edited by PirateMk1; 06-03-13 at 10:34 PM.
Semper Fidelis, Semper Liber.
Stolen fair and square from the Capt. Courtesey himself.I spit at lots of people through my computer screen. Not only does it "teach them a lesson" but it keeps the screen clean and shiny.
The "other side" objects to slurs such as homo, faggot, queer... I don't blame them. I call anyone who uses such disrespectful slurs a jerk, Hibbert included. The term "his sexuality" was also in response to the OP bringing in his name.When the other side says something, I don't believe it to be proper for the gay community and/or gay supporters to attempt to shame them or muzzle them.
I suppose he said have added NTTAWWT? The thing is it's not for myself or anyone else to dictate what another can legitimately take offense to. If the 'humor' doesn't apply to you, well you aren't struggling to not internalize comments you've heard thousands of times to suggest that everything about your identity is wrong. In this case, the 'no homo' was unnecessary but not especially malicious either. If that was his goal, he could've done a lot worse. So i just roll my eyes at the stupidity of it, rather than get bent out of shape.
Having said that, falling back on this kind of language on a regular basis is a red flag that the speaker has the mind of a child. No friend of mine talks this way. I suspect he is a complete insensitive asshole in private if he's saying this at a press conference.
Now, as I said...kind of a ridiculous point to make because it's rather hyperbolic, but I don't think it's so much a justification "Collins came out as gay, so players have a 'right' to say homo now!".
That's absurd. The "no homo" was the same as "I don't mean this in a bad way, I mean it in a good way". It was a unnecessary, even if meant as a joke, and was clearly used in a pejorative sense as I just explained.
Last edited by ecofarm; 06-03-13 at 10:58 PM.
No more than I expect that someone saying "That's what she said" to try and express to me this really funny thing one of their friends literally said to them sometime.
It was a young guy making a joke about the fact that something he said had sexual innuendo of a particular type. Juvenile? Yes. Some horrible offensive slur on par with the "n-word" or an attempt to insult Lebron James by suggesting he's homosexual and that being a homosexual is bad? No.
Yes, you're absolutely right that it was a pejorative. That's different than a slur however. Yes, it is a joke clearly meant to show the individuals distaste over the notion that THEY were engaging in homosexual action.That's absurd. The "no homo" was the same as "I don't mean that in a bad way, I mean it in a good way". It was a unnecessary, even if meant as a joke, and was clearly used in a pejorative sense as I just explained.
I don't see anything wrong with that. I don't think there's anything wrong with a heterosexual person having a "distaste" with the notion of themselves having gay sex....just like I don't see anything wrong with a homosexual person having a distaste with the notion of themselves having straight sex. That the individual is straight, and thus would have a distaste to perform a gay act, is the basis of the joke. Not as a means of saying "GAYS ARE BAD".
Juvenile? Yes. Some big horrible offense, some slur, something on par with "nigger" as some have been suggesting? No.