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    Re: Roy Hibbert Uses Gay Slur in Post Game Press Conference

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I see. So it was just a general insult. Kind of like he could have said, "LeBron James plays like a retard." Oh, then it's okay then.
    Its schoolyard stuff, jawing at an opposing team. If I knew I was going to be fined I would use much more colorful and creative metaphors. Trash talking is an art form. I love art. He should have said, "LeBron James? That pansy ass fairy, retarded, hairy ass, monkey? He couldn't play ball even if he was opposed by hobbled zombie midgets." People need to lighten up. Sticks and stones and all the rest that nursery rhyme.
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    Re: Roy Hibbert Uses Gay Slur in Post Game Press Conference

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    No one in this instance used a slur about his sexuality, AT ALL.

    If you're going to call him a jerk, please....specify what statement he made that use a slur in reference to Collins?
    Here is a snippet from the OP, which is what I was responding to:

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    ... How is it okay for Jason Collins to proclaim his sexuality but not okay for Roy Hibbert to say what he said?
    Basically I stated that just Collins coming out as a homosexual does not give Hibbert the right to use a gay slur. I brought Collins' name in because the OP used his "coming out" as a justification why Hibbert had the right to use the term "homo".

    When the other side says something, I don't believe it to be proper for the gay community and/or gay supporters to attempt to shame them or muzzle them.
    The "other side" objects to slurs such as homo, faggot, queer... I don't blame them. I call anyone who uses such disrespectful slurs a jerk, Hibbert included. The term "his sexuality" was also in response to the OP bringing in his name.

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    Re: Roy Hibbert Uses Gay Slur in Post Game Press Conference

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I see. So it was just a general insult. Kind of like he could have said, "LeBron James plays like a retard." Oh, then it's okay then.
    Oh, no, dear The R word just gets you a different group of Stepford people coming after you.

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    Re: Roy Hibbert Uses Gay Slur in Post Game Press Conference

    I suppose he said have added NTTAWWT? The thing is it's not for myself or anyone else to dictate what another can legitimately take offense to. If the 'humor' doesn't apply to you, well you aren't struggling to not internalize comments you've heard thousands of times to suggest that everything about your identity is wrong. In this case, the 'no homo' was unnecessary but not especially malicious either. If that was his goal, he could've done a lot worse. So i just roll my eyes at the stupidity of it, rather than get bent out of shape.

    Having said that, falling back on this kind of language on a regular basis is a red flag that the speaker has the mind of a child. No friend of mine talks this way. I suspect he is a complete insensitive asshole in private if he's saying this at a press conference.

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    Re: Roy Hibbert Uses Gay Slur in Post Game Press Conference

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Here is a snippet from the OP, which is what I was responding to:

    Basically I stated that just Collins coming out as a homosexual does not give Hibbert the right to use a gay slur. I brought Collins' name in because the OP used his "coming out" as a justification why Hibbert had the right to use the term "homo".
    Gotcha. That said, I get the OP's point. I think it's a bit hyperbolic, since just because one basketball player came out doesn't mean suddenly every statement with innuendo is going to make people assume a player is gay....but what he's basically saying is when you have players having to declare in press conferences that they're "gay", then it's a bit ridiculous to get upset with someone clarifying that a statement they said that could be taken to have a connotation in a homosexual way wasn't meant in that fashion.

    Now, as I said...kind of a ridiculous point to make because it's rather hyperbolic, but I don't think it's so much a justification "Collins came out as gay, so players have a 'right' to say homo now!".

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    Re: Roy Hibbert Uses Gay Slur in Post Game Press Conference

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    then it's a bit ridiculous to get upset with someone clarifying that a statement they said that could be taken to have a connotation in a homosexual way wasn't meant in that fashion.
    Really? You think he needed to clarify? You were expecting him to announce his engagement to a fellow teammate?

    That's absurd. The "no homo" was the same as "I don't mean this in a bad way, I mean it in a good way". It was a unnecessary, even if meant as a joke, and was clearly used in a pejorative sense as I just explained.
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    Re: Roy Hibbert Uses Gay Slur in Post Game Press Conference

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Really? You think he needed to clarify? You were expecting him to announce his engagement to a fellow teammate?
    Not at all.

    No more than I expect that someone saying "That's what she said" to try and express to me this really funny thing one of their friends literally said to them sometime.

    It was a young guy making a joke about the fact that something he said had sexual innuendo of a particular type. Juvenile? Yes. Some horrible offensive slur on par with the "n-word" or an attempt to insult Lebron James by suggesting he's homosexual and that being a homosexual is bad? No.

    That's absurd. The "no homo" was the same as "I don't mean that in a bad way, I mean it in a good way". It was a unnecessary, even if meant as a joke, and was clearly used in a pejorative sense as I just explained.
    Yes, you're absolutely right that it was a pejorative. That's different than a slur however. Yes, it is a joke clearly meant to show the individuals distaste over the notion that THEY were engaging in homosexual action.

    I don't see anything wrong with that. I don't think there's anything wrong with a heterosexual person having a "distaste" with the notion of themselves having gay sex....just like I don't see anything wrong with a homosexual person having a distaste with the notion of themselves having straight sex. That the individual is straight, and thus would have a distaste to perform a gay act, is the basis of the joke. Not as a means of saying "GAYS ARE BAD".

    Juvenile? Yes. Some big horrible offense, some slur, something on par with "nigger" as some have been suggesting? No.

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    Re: Roy Hibbert Uses Gay Slur in Post Game Press Conference

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Not at all.

    No more than I expect that someone saying "That's what she said" to try and express to me this really funny thing one of their friends literally said to them sometime.

    It was a young guy making a joke about the fact that something he said had sexual innuendo of a particular type. Juvenile? Yes. Some horrible offensive slur on par with the "n-word" or an attempt to insult Lebron James by suggesting he's homosexual and that being a homosexual is bad? No.



    Yes, you're absolutely right that it was a pejorative. That's different than a slur however. Yes, it is a joke clearly meant to show the individuals distaste over the notion that THEY were engaging in homosexual action.

    I don't see anything wrong with that. I don't think there's anything wrong with a heterosexual person having a "distaste" with the notion of themselves having gay sex....just like I don't see anything wrong with a homosexual person having a distaste with the notion of themselves having straight sex. That the individual is straight, and thus would have a distaste to perform a gay act, is the basis of the joke. Not as a means of saying "GAYS ARE BAD".

    Juvenile? Yes. Some big horrible offense, some slur, something on par with "nigger" as some have been suggesting? No.
    I'm not claiming that it was a homophobic tirade, and I don't think anyone is, at least anyone that has read the quote. Nonetheless, one can only interpret his remark as a pejorative and an unnecessary one. As he had another unfortunate (profanity laden) remark and said he didn't care about fines, an example was in order.

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    Re: Roy Hibbert Uses Gay Slur in Post Game Press Conference

    Quote Originally Posted by Verthaine View Post
    Isn't it kind of funny how some conservatives here are all of sudden taking the side of labor over the side of the business owners?
    Yeah and the same ones who love to gay bash at every opportunity, go figure. Just need one more of them who likes to post tirades of epic length to jump in (think you know who I mean).

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    Re: Roy Hibbert Uses Gay Slur in Post Game Press Conference

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    What quote are you reading? Because I'm OBVIOUSLY reading something different as I don't see anywhere that he used the term "homo" as an "insult toward" James.



    This wasn't calling anyone gay, or insulting anyone for being gay, it was him making a statement that unintentionally could have some innuendo attached to it and qualified that the innuendo wasn't serious or intended.

    Was it juvenile? Absolutely. Was it a "Slur", especially something you wantonly compare to Nigger? Absolutely not. Was it an "insult towards" Lebron James? Not at all. At best, it was a comment about the Heat as a team...and it was a COMPLIMENT, that they managed to cause Hibbard to get out of position.

    Seriously, if someone was saying he said a juvenile, insensitive thing, that's one thing....but a "Slur?" Comparable to nigger? Insulting towards Lebron James? I think that's just a wonderful example of people immediately grabbing an issue and staking out an ideological position on it because that's the only way they see the world, regardless of facts or reality.
    Fair enough, I misread the quote. Regardless, he wasn't "expressing an unpopular opinion." He's not being singled out for expressing a Conservative POV.


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