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    Re: Court: Police can take DNA swabs from arrestees

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    I'll ask you the same question as another poster, What sinister things do you think will be done with the information?
    Why is an answer that question needed? They are barred from such actions not due to the harm of the act, but due to the nature of the act.

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    Re: Court: Police can take DNA swabs from arrestees

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    the point is that obtaining DNA is a search, and now it's a search which doesn't require a warrant.

    it's not entirely analogous to fingerprints. DNA contains much more private data than a fingerprint.
    Like what?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Court: Police can take DNA swabs from arrestees

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Why is an answer that question needed? They are barred from such actions not due to the harm of the act, but due to the nature of the act.
    I'm not following your reply...
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    Re: Court: Police can take DNA swabs from arrestees

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    I'll ask you the same question as another poster, What sinister things do you think will be done with the information?
    i've stated some of my concerns upthread. however, let me ask you this : what if it isn't used for anything nefarious? it's still a warrantless search. it sets a dangerous precedent.

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    Re: Court: Police can take DNA swabs from arrestees

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Like what?
    like your entire genome.

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    Re: Court: Police can take DNA swabs from arrestees

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    I'm not seeing a similar outrage over that practice...
    Fingerprints don't open up the door to the same relationship capabilities that DNA does.

    We see the IRS targeting certain groups based on little more than the name of the organization they formed and keyword tracking is common across the internet for commercial as well as investigative purposes. Once this database starts to build there is likely to be more and more "need" to keep the database up to date as well as to fill in various "blanks". It should make most people more than a little concerned that all of this data is being compiled even though there is no immediate need for the government to have that information.

    The absolute LAST thing we want to do is to give the government carte blanche to accumulate personal information without very good and very limited reason for doing so. The potential for abuse is simply too dangerous.

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    Re: Court: Police can take DNA swabs from arrestees

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    like your entire genome.
    So what?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Court: Police can take DNA swabs from arrestees

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So what?
    So what? Facepalm!

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    Re: Court: Police can take DNA swabs from arrestees

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So what?
    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
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    Re: Court: Police can take DNA swabs from arrestees

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    I'm not following your reply...
    Read the amendment in question again..

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
    It is talking about searches and seizures which means very clearly applies ALL searches and seizures. It makes no difference if such and such search and seizure is harmless or not. Your argument is entirely immaterial.

    Btw, this ruling also flies in the face of the fifth and fourteenth amendment.

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