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    Re: Court: Police can take DNA swabs from arrestees

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I do not think there should be a database period.
    ...for either fingerprints or DNA.

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    Re: Court: Police can take DNA swabs from arrestees

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I do not think there should be a database period.
    I definitely approve the consistency, but aren't all rights a tradeoff? Wouldn't a universal DNA database make it less likely that I'd be investigated unless I committed a crime? Wouldn't that increase my privacy?

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    Re: Court: Police can take DNA swabs from arrestees

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    I definitely approve the consistency, but aren't all rights a tradeoff? Wouldn't a universal DNA database make it less likely that I'd be investigated unless I committed a crime? Wouldn't that increase my privacy?
    No, rights are not trade offs.

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    Re: Court: Police can take DNA swabs from arrestees

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That's horrible. Can't even keep your property for a day. Shame.
    They tell you it is to avoid mix-ups and giving the wrong baby to the wrong person. I would think there are other ways to insure that but what do I know.
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    Re: Court: Police can take DNA swabs from arrestees

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    I definitely approve the consistency, but aren't all rights a tradeoff?
    Nope.

    Wouldn't a universal DNA database make it less likely that I'd be investigated unless I committed a crime?
    No it wouldn't.Not all criminals leave finger prints or DNA. Not all finger prints or DNA collected from crime scenes are whole finger prints or whole DNA.If anything a database would make it easier for someone to plant your biometric information at a crime scene. Even then that stuff if circumstantial,for example a finger print on a shell casing proves you touched it it, does not prove you loaded the bullet into the gun and it most certainly doesn't prove you fired the gun.

    Wouldn't that increase my privacy?
    So you are suggesting that we should give up personal information in hopes that the police won't investigate us for anything? In that case lets mandate GPS in our cars and tracking chips in everyone.
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    Re: Court: Police can take DNA swabs from arrestees

    Quote Originally Posted by Heebie Jeebie View Post
    They tell you it is to avoid mix-ups and giving the wrong baby to the wrong person. I would think there are other ways to insure that but what do I know.
    Like name tags for one or names on the individual little beds.

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    Re: Court: Police can take DNA swabs from arrestees

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Like name tags for one or names on the individual little beds.
    Brilliant! Now why could they think of that?
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    Re: Court: Police can take DNA swabs from arrestees

    Because you would be smart enough to know they could be eaisly switched or the babies mixed up.
    Quote Originally Posted by Heebie Jeebie View Post
    Brilliant! Now why could they think of that?
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    Re: Court: Police can take DNA swabs from arrestees

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Because you would be smart enough to know they could be eaisly switched or the babies mixed up.
    Ok, so what is the solution besides taking their fingerprints, which the state nor the hospital has a right towards.

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    Re: Court: Police can take DNA swabs from arrestees

    Grab bag babies? I dont know, this sounds like paranoia to me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Ok, so what is the solution besides taking their fingerprints, which the state nor the hospital has a right towards.
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