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    Re: Court: Police can take DNA swabs from arrestees

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    That's what fingerprints are currently used to confirm...
    Which is a search and seizure. Why do you believe that you can fall back on something that falls into the same exactly crater? I realize the court did the same, but there is a reason the logic is faulty.

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    Re: Court: Police can take DNA swabs from arrestees

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    but if it's only to be used for a specific class of crimes, how difficult would be to get a warrant?
    I would rather have it this way because this way it does not become a "point of view" case. Because let us theorize that someone is arrested and the lawyer goes to the judge and say they could have asked for a warrant and they the DNA that proves my client raped 150 women and killed 10 women is thrown out of that kind of a technicality. I say no, if a person is arrested without a warrant and is found to be a serious criminal due to DNA evidence that they find due to his DNA being taken then I would say that is no problem for me. If he hadn't committed a crime he would have never been found by DNA found at an arrest without a warrant, so tough luck and not a problem for me.
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    Re: Court: Police can take DNA swabs from arrestees

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Sorry I won't "lighten up". Apparently the whole "my body my choice" rhetoric only applies if you're murdering an innocent child in the womb. What right does the Government have to your body? Your DNA is your matter. It's not an imprint like a cast or ink smudged on paper. It's literally your cells. It is your physical blueprint. Clones can be made from DNA. Without a warrant what right does the Government have to extract cells and DNA from your body without your consent if you have not committed a serious crime? If you are under no suspicion of having committed a crime the Government can confiscate your DNA at birth? Really? You specifically stated the Government has a right to DNA just for a human being born. Your response to giving Government that authority over your body is "lighten up"? Are you kidding me right now?

    If a parent wants to take a DNA sample and store it on their own, that is their right as parents. The Government is not your mommy and daddy however.

    If you believe in The Constitution how could you possibly come to the conclusion that the Government has a right to your body just for being born.
    I agree with everything here except that its the rights of the parents to take a DNA sample.

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    Re: Court: Police can take DNA swabs from arrestees

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Which is a search and seizure. Why do you believe that you can fall back on something that falls into the same exactly crater? I realize the court did the same, but there is a reason the logic is faulty.
    I'm most likely more about individual freedoms than you are, but I have zero problem with police being given reasonable investigative powers to prove guilt or innocence...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Court: Police can take DNA swabs from arrestees

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    I'm most likely more about individual freedoms than you are, but I have zero problem with police being given reasonable investigative powers to prove guilt or innocence...
    I highly doubt you are more about individual freedoms than I am. I'm actually outraged by personal freedoms being violated, while you are just like "is it harmful?". Like that even matters.

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    Re: Court: Police can take DNA swabs from arrestees

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I highly doubt you are more about individual freedoms than I am. I'm actually outraged by personal freedoms being violated, while you are just like "is it harmful?". Like that even matters.
    No, I'm about trying to gather the most conclusive evidence as to a person's guilt or innocence as to the commission of a crime. Since the reliability of DNA has been proven, many have been released from prison for crimes not committed. You, it seems, would rather return to the days of circumstantial evidence being the most prevalent...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Court: Police can take DNA swabs from arrestees

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
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    Getting arrested purdy much covers the probable cause part.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Court: Police can take DNA swabs from arrestees

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    No, I'm about trying to gather the most conclusive evidence as to a person's guilt or innocence as to the commission of a crime. Since the reliability of DNA has been proven, many have been released from prison for crimes not committed. You, it seems, would rather return to the days of circumstantial evidence being the most prevalent...
    If I've been arrested and I'm innocent, I'm going to demand they take a DNA sample.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Court: Police can take DNA swabs from arrestees

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If I've been arrested and I'm innocent, I'm going to demand they take a DNA sample.
    Then demand it. How is that even hard? Why do you have to pull everyone along for the ride for something you can easily do yourself?

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    Re: Court: Police can take DNA swabs from arrestees

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I agree with everything here except that its the rights of the parents to take a DNA sample.
    That is the only grey area for me where I would need to give it more thought. There are certain rights parents have over their children before they are age 18. That child is a product of the parents DNA. (adoptions ect obviously would not have the same right to that child's DNA that their biological parents potentially have. Again I'm undecided). That's certainly an enormous Pandora's box that would need to be explored I agree with you. I'm on the fence with it.

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