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    Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/01/bu...orts.html?_r=0

    Japan and South Korea suspended some imports of American wheat, and the European Union urged its 27 nations to increase testing, after the United States government disclosed this week that a strain of genetically engineered wheat that was never approved for sale was found growing in an Oregon field.
    Although none of the wheat, developed by Monsanto Company, was found in any grain shipments — and the Department of Agriculture said there would be no health risk if any was shipped — governments in Asia and Europe acted quickly to limit their risk.
    The European Union, which has a “zero tolerance” approach to genetically modified crops, said through its consumer protection office Friday that if any shipments tested positive, they would not be sold.
    The United States is the world’s biggest exporter of wheat. While genetically engineered corn and soybeans are routinely grown, they are largely consumed by animals, while wheat is consumed directly by people and has faced more consumer resistance.
    Japan and Mexico are among the biggest importers of American wheat. The European Union imports more than one million tons each year, mostly to Spain.
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    Anyway. I don't trust GMOs but I don't mistrust them completely. Technically, we, humanity, have been crossbreeding plants and vegetables and animals to get the desirable traits from them. GMOs are just the XXIth century way of doing that. But we have to wonder... has it gone to far? What are the risks? Who has oversight and reports if abuses are made? So while I don't mistrust the science behind creating genetically modified organisms (here, crops), I mistrust the people who are behind it.

    What do you guys think about GMOs and about the fact that several countries have banned wheat imports from the USA for fear of GMO contaminated shipments of crops.

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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    The risk is how the new genetic code is inserted into the plant. Cross breeding is done without any 'help' but most engineered plants have had a 'stripped' virus used to implant the new genetic material. In a crude way it is like giving the plant the flu which implants some new genetic material instead of the sniffles.

    The worry is an improperly prepared virus carrier can still be active and cause problems if enough of them get into the food supply, the process to make the virus carrier isn't a one virus at a time manual process.

    Some 'frankenfood' scares seem overblown but the East and Europe have had a constant litany of grievances with US food. Most treaties prevent outright embargoes and tariffs to protect domestic grain production so very strict regulations help slow the importation of US grain. Our beef gets tagged quite a bit for a variety of reasons.

    Most bans don't last long enough to affect prices but as the wheat harvest is just now kicking off in SW Ok I am sure many farmers are just shaking their heads at one more ding in their profit margin.

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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    The risk is how the new genetic code is inserted into the plant. Cross breeding is done without any 'help' but most engineered plants have had a 'stripped' virus used to implant the new genetic material. In a crude way it is like giving the plant the flu which implants some new genetic material instead of the sniffles.

    The worry is an improperly prepared virus carrier can still be active and cause problems if enough of them get into the food supply, the process to make the virus carrier isn't a one virus at a time manual process.

    Some 'frankenfood' scares seem overblown but the East and Europe have had a constant litany of grievances with US food. Most treaties prevent outright embargoes and tariffs to protect domestic grain production so very strict regulations help slow the importation of US grain. Our beef gets tagged quite a bit for a variety of reasons.

    Most bans don't last long enough to affect prices but as the wheat harvest is just now kicking off in SW Ok I am sure many farmers are just shaking their heads at one more ding in their profit margin.
    "The worry?" Who is worried about this, and what is the scientific basis for this concern?
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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    LOL...

    What if it was a natural hybrid of its surroundings?

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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    Interesting story on the issue:

    GMO Wheat Found In Oregon Field. How Did It Get There?

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    Fast forward eight years. About a month ago, a farmer in eastern Oregon noticed some wheat plants growing where he didn't expect them, and they didn't die when he sprayed them with Roundup.

    The farmer sent samples of these curious plants to , a scientist at Oregon State University who has investigated other cases in which genetically engineered crops spread beyond their approved boundaries.

    She found that this wheat was, in fact, genetically engineered. She passed samples on to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, which confirmed her results.
    In 2006, traces of genetically engineered rice — also unapproved — were discovered in large parts of the American rice harvest. That discovery shut down America's rice exports to some countries. Exporters lost millions of dollars. The wheat harvest is much bigger.

    Steve Mercer, from U.S. Wheat Associates, says there's no indication that this will happen to wheat. Right now, it's just a few isolated plants growing in eastern Oregon.

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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    This is nothing more than fear mongering to protect domestic agricultural interests. It has been going on for years. The scientific consensus is entirely on the side of GM crops and has been for years, it is overwhelming. Europe has been the worst in this regard, it has a much larger and more culturally ingrained agricultural tradition and strong special interests especially in Western Europe. They have done their best to gin up fear against GMO's in an effort to prevent an agricultural FTA and to keep US and Canadian products off their shelves. It's extremely unfortunate especially since it has done so much damage in the developing world.

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    Don't have much concerns over GMO's. We've been doing this for centuries, now it is just more accurate, and there is less chance for risks to my knowledge. But I distrust that evil ****ing pile of **** company Monsanto with a every fiber of my being. The way they have congress wrapped around their finger is sickening.
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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    This is nothing more than fear mongering to protect domestic agricultural interests. It has been going on for years. The scientific consensus is entirely on the side of GM crops and has been for years, it is overwhelming. Europe has been the worst in this regard, it has a much larger and more culturally ingrained agricultural tradition and strong special interests especially in Western Europe. They have done their best to gin up fear against GMO's in an effort to prevent an agricultural FTA and to keep US and Canadian products off their shelves. It's extremely unfortunate especially since it has done so much damage in the developing world.
    I don't think there is a problem with GMO's either. But what if there is? We have had so little time to see since they were developed.

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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Interesting story on the issue:

    GMO Wheat Found In Oregon Field. How Did It Get There?

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    The wheat didn't die when they sprayed it with ROUND-UP???? Yep, Frankenfood. Holy crap.
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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    I don't think there is a problem with GMO's either. But what if there is? We have had so little time to see since they were developed.
    We've had almost 20 years and thousands of scientific studies not to mention common sense.

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