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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    I think a lot of people know that but as mentioned above are more concerned about using unnatural means to modify things we eat. A healthy does of fear and caution is survival instinct.
    Small Pox is natural.

    Starvation is natural.

    Nature provides lots and lots of yummy looking things that are lethally poisonous.

    A large brain, opposable thumbs and an aggressive mindset bent upon subduing the world and everything in it is natural, and so leads us by a completely natural path to genetically modifying our food crops.
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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Now you are just being snide. Of course man has guided genetics for a long time. But straight up editing it acutely? New stuff. Gotta be sure they dont do with genetics what china does with melamine and milk. No shortcuts for quicker profit.
    Profits are one of the most important things in the world, whether formalized by a structured economic system, the acquisition of land and freedom through warfare, or having minimal food to ensure the survival of one's children after flailing the Earth to force it to bring forth grain.

    Profit should be spoken of reverentially, not dismissively.

    And what do you mean that I'm being snide now?


    Now?

    NOW?!
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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    Small Pox is natural.

    Starvation is natural.

    Nature provides lots and lots of yummy looking things that are lethally poisonous.

    A large brain, opposable thumbs and an aggressive mindset bent upon subduing the world and everything in it is natural, and so leads us by a completely natural path to genetically modifying our food crops.
    And keeps us from just jumping in feet first.

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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    And keeps us from just jumping in feet first.
    Are you vaccinated?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Are you vaccinated?
    With vaccines that have been proven to be safe over decades. I wouldnt be the first in line for some new one.

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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    The wheat didn't die when they sprayed it with ROUND-UP???? Yep, Frankenfood. Holy crap.
    That is why everybody is up in Monsanto's face. Basically they alter crop seeds so that the plant is resistant to roundup. This allows farmers to then spray their fields with roundup to kill the undesirables but keep the desirables. It allows farmers to plant rows closer together and get higher yields because the fields do not need as much regular maintenance to keep the weeds out. The harvested seeds are also roundup resistant. The terms of the contract they have with farmers prevents them from harvesting the seeds and reusing it, forcing the farmers to buy new seeds from Monsanto every year.

    IMHO, all this GMO crap is a collateral attack on agribusinesses that have cornered some of the markets and people are pissed about it so they are creating some fake issue rather than be honest with their intentions.

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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    With vaccines that have been proven to be safe over decades. I wouldnt be the first in line for some new one.
    I'm calling bull. I'm guessing that there is a more than decent chance that of the dozens of vaccines you have taken you know the backgrounds, trial history, and scientific details of almost none of them.

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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/01/bu...orts.html?_r=0











    You can go to the link. I left the unimportant parts out. Read the link for all the info.

    Anyway. I don't trust GMOs but I don't mistrust them completely. Technically, we, humanity, have been crossbreeding plants and vegetables and animals to get the desirable traits from them. GMOs are just the XXIth century way of doing that. But we have to wonder... has it gone to far? What are the risks? Who has oversight and reports if abuses are made? So while I don't mistrust the science behind creating genetically modified organisms (here, crops), I mistrust the people who are behind it.

    What do you guys think about GMOs and about the fact that several countries have banned wheat imports from the USA for fear of GMO contaminated shipments of crops.
    I have ZERO trust in the Corporatism for Profit motivation of AgriBusiness. Especially Monsanto. This is not an industry that you want to hear an "OOPS!" from.

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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    I'm calling bull. I'm guessing that there is a more than decent chance that of the dozens of vaccines you have taken you know the backgrounds, trial history, and scientific details of almost none of them.
    Because they have been proven over decades. And ad hominem in any case.

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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Because they have been proven over decades. And ad hominem in any case.
    How do you know they are proven? New vaccine variants are introduced frequently. It is highly likely that you have been given a vaccine that has not been tested over decades and I'm not just talking about flu shots. You know nothing about them, but you take them because you trust scientific consensus. The same should be true about GMO's.

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