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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Im scared of "them" making food grow with less and less nutrients and have less requirements for tending/upkeep or quicker yield. Cheaper/more efficient food production with more monetary rewards at the expense of common people filling their stomachs with frivolous food that never actually nurtures them. Like hollow "filler" foods. Not sure if my fear is sound or not as ive never even researched genetically modified foods. But if they engineer an ear of corn that grows to the same size yet requires half the soil and fuel for growth wouldn't that corn not be as wholesome in the end?
    depends- IF the plant can be made more efficient in the use of water in particular, added nutrients as well, then the quality doesn't slump. Think of it more like improving the MPG in a vehicle by working on the engine rather than making the body out of paper. The earliest work was for drought resistance and insect attack, splicing in genes to boost those traits.

    Since most grain has an animal feed value, making it less nutritious doesn't seem profitable. Not a master baker but I do believe poor value grain doesn't bake as well. I do know at the farmer's point of sale grain quality affects the money paid for the crop. Poor grain is suitable only as animal feed and not given top dollar by the elevator or the feedlot.

    I'd look at the food processors for any sign of making what we eat 'filler'.

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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    LOL...

    What if it was a natural hybrid of its surroundings?
    I believe the seeds are sterile and must be replaced each growing season (from Monsanto, etc)

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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Don't have much concerns over GMO's. We've been doing this for centuries, now it is just more accurate, and there is less chance for risks to my knowledge. But I distrust that evil ****ing pile of **** company Monsanto with a every fiber of my being. The way they have congress wrapped around their finger is sickening.
    Not at the molecular level we haven't. Only natural cross-breeding.

    Alabama Jury Says Monsanto Polluted Town - NYTimes.com

    Why does our government trust Monsanto?

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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    I wonder how many people here even know that wheat was a genetic mutation of goat grass.

    Or that husbandry is a form of genetic manipulation.

    Or the we got modern dogs by messing about with the genome for wolves.

    Or what horses looked like before we altered them.

    Man has been a genetic engineer since long before we know that there were genes.

    Oh, well the Gullible need their boogeymen to keep them from exposing their minds to real threats.
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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I believe the seeds are sterile and must be replaced each growing season (from Monsanto, etc)
    No, "terminator gene" crops have never been used.
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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    I wonder how many people here even know that wheat was a genetic mutation of goat grass.

    Or that husbandry is a form of genetic manipulation.

    Or the we got modern dogs by messing about with the genome for wolves.

    Or what horses looked like before we altered them.

    Man has been a genetic engineer since long before we know that there were genes.

    Oh, well the Gullible need their boogeymen to keep them from exposing their minds to real threats.
    Even without GMO panic, Monsanto makes a good boogeyman because they're basically Lex Luthor Industries in terms of business practices.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    I wonder how many people here even know that wheat was a genetic mutation of goat grass.

    Or that husbandry is a form of genetic manipulation.

    Or the we got modern dogs by messing about with the genome for wolves.

    Or what horses looked like before we altered them.

    Man has been a genetic engineer since long before we know that there were genes.

    Oh, well the Gullible need their boogeymen to keep them from exposing their minds to real threats.
    Now you are just being snide. Of course man has guided genetics for a long time. But straight up editing it acutely? New stuff. Gotta be sure they dont do with genetics what china does with melamine and milk. No shortcuts for quicker profit.
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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    I find the irrational fear of GMO's to be silly, yet sad at the same time.

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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    So, will the price of bread come down in America what with these exports being cancelled. Hold you breath. Fifty nine Mississippi...58 Mis....

    As for GMOs and their patent rights, try this dystopian tale, it will make you think. Amazon.com: The Windup Girl (9781597801584): Paolo Bacigalupi: Books
    Yes, prices will go down if theres a surplus and the farmers can profit by selling more at a lower price. However, another possibility is that the govt (taxpayers) will pay the farmers to burn any surplus in order to artifically control prices. Much like they did in 1942 to a farmer who had the audacity to grow a little extra wheat to feed himself.

    Wickard v. Filburn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    I wonder how many people here even know that wheat was a genetic mutation of goat grass.

    Or that husbandry is a form of genetic manipulation.

    Or the we got modern dogs by messing about with the genome for wolves.

    Or what horses looked like before we altered them.

    Man has been a genetic engineer since long before we know that there were genes.

    Oh, well the Gullible need their boogeymen to keep them from exposing their minds to real threats.
    I think a lot of people know that but as mentioned above are more concerned about using unnatural means to modify things we eat. A healthy does of fear and caution is survival instinct.

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