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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    The wheat didn't die when they sprayed it with ROUND-UP???? Yep, Frankenfood. Holy crap.
    That is the whole point! It's engineered to be resistant to glyphosate herbicides like Round-Up so that farmers can use the herbicides broadly to clear their fields without damaging their crops. It increases crop yields by reducing the amount of product lost to infestation and pests while increasing your potential area of arable land in developing countries that have unique or large insect problems.

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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    So, will the price of bread come down in America what with these exports being cancelled. Hold you breath. Fifty nine Mississippi...58 Mis....

    As for GMOs and their patent rights, try this dystopian tale, it will make you think. Amazon.com: The Windup Girl (9781597801584): Paolo Bacigalupi: Books

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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    Everything we eat is genetically modified. It's called evolution.

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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    The wheat didn't die when they sprayed it with ROUND-UP???? Yep, Frankenfood. Holy crap.
    At least you have sense.

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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    I do not trust GMO's any more then I trust anything else where large amounts of money are involved. Look at the health hazards of processed foods yet our government still allow them to be produced and eaten because its good business. I wouldnt be at all surprised that in 20 years time we find that some GMO's lead to all sorts of health issues, and that being the approved crops. There have been several instances now where unapproved crops have found there way into our food supply. That is a scary thought.

    GMOs also have their downsides. Here is an example of one side effect partially related to GMO's.

    Dirt Poor: Have Fruits and Vegetables Become Less Nutritious?: Scientific American

    but it is true that fruits and vegetables grown decades ago were much richer in vitamins and minerals than the varieties most of us get today. The main culprit in this disturbing nutritional trend is soil depletion: Modern intensive agricultural methods have stripped increasing amounts of nutrients from the soil in which the food we eat grows. Sadly, each successive generation of fast-growing, pest-resistant carrot is truly less good for you than the one before.
    They studied U.S. Department of Agriculture nutritional data from both 1950 and 1999 for 43 different vegetables and fruits, finding “reliable declines” in the amount of protein, calcium, phosphorus, iron, riboflavin (vitamin B2) and vitamin C over the past half century. Davis and his colleagues chalk up this declining nutritional content to the preponderance of agricultural practices designed to improve traits (size, growth rate, pest resistance) other than nutrition
    I have also read several cases where GMO's were believed to have serious health issues when given to livestock and test animals. I will point out these are probably strains not approved for human consumption but as I mentioned above sometimes the stuff gets mixed up and finds its way into the human market.

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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    Everything we eat is genetically modified. It's called evolution.
    Bananas and wheat are intelligently designed.
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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    The risk is how the new genetic code is inserted into the plant. Cross breeding is done without any 'help' but most engineered plants have had a 'stripped' virus used to implant the new genetic material. In a crude way it is like giving the plant the flu which implants some new genetic material instead of the sniffles.

    The worry is an improperly prepared virus carrier can still be active and cause problems if enough of them get into the food supply, the process to make the virus carrier isn't a one virus at a time manual process.

    Some 'frankenfood' scares seem overblown but the East and Europe have had a constant litany of grievances with US food. Most treaties prevent outright embargoes and tariffs to protect domestic grain production so very strict regulations help slow the importation of US grain. Our beef gets tagged quite a bit for a variety of reasons.

    Most bans don't last long enough to affect prices but as the wheat harvest is just now kicking off in SW Ok I am sure many farmers are just shaking their heads at one more ding in their profit margin.
    Im scared of "them" making food grow with less and less nutrients and have less requirements for tending/upkeep or quicker yield. Cheaper/more efficient food production with more monetary rewards at the expense of common people filling their stomachs with frivolous food that never actually nurtures them. Like hollow "filler" foods.

    Not sure if my fear is sound or not as ive never even researched genetically modified foods. But if they engineer an ear of corn that grows to the same size yet requires half the soil and fuel for growth wouldn't that corn not be as wholesome in the end?
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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    The wheat didn't die when they sprayed it with ROUND-UP???? Yep, Frankenfood. Holy crap.
    And Round-Up is made my Monsanto. The only question is, why haven't they sued the farmer yet?

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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    I don’t have a problem with GMOs themselves. I think ultimately they can feed the world. My issues are with the business practices that arise as a result of them.

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    Re: Japan and South Korea Bar Imports of U.S. Wheat

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Don't have much concerns over GMO's. We've been doing this for centuries, now it is just more accurate, and there is less chance for risks to my knowledge.
    We've been crossing corn with bacteria via viral or physical DNA splicing so as to create a cross-kingdom hybrid with an antibiotic splice as the culture mechanism? We've been producing millions of plants with the exact same DNA, totally wiping out a variety's biodiversity? We've been creating herbicide resistant plants with the ability to spawn super-weeds? We've been creating plants that go with specific pesticides sold by the same company, creating a cycle of dependence?

    Because, ya know, I'm pretty sure all that stuff is very new.

    And if all that stuff has been going on for centuries, why does Monsanto own the seed/IPR now when they just played with it for a few minutes?
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