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    Re: The Free Lunch

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    I just can't trick you can I?

    So, how many months for pimping and tax evasion\ and how many months for welfare fraud did she get? What would the breakdown be. 20 minutes for the "theft by deception"?

    See what I mean?
    As you are well aware, the article presents no such breakdown.
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    Re: The Free Lunch

    Having never (and I am grateful) needed public assistance, I don't know how that works. I suppose they give you a monthly allowance and allow you to let it accumulate. Why anyone would sond their own money and let their welfare funds accumulate is pretty hard to comprehend. Is this common?

    Recently, I was in line behind an EBT lady and I offered to pay her tab to get her the **** out of my way since she was moving so slow. She had 33 on her EBT card. So by [paying $5 or so, I got 33 credit - lucky me. So I must admit I'm baffled about this case. Do you have a link to the story please?


    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    Just an example of abuse of public assistance. That receipt is from a purchase with an EBT card (basically, a credit card because actual food stamps are too humiliating). The balance shows there is $7k left on the card.

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    Re: The Free Lunch

    As you are well aware, tax evasion or pimping would get you serious jail time. Her short sentence give me insight to a least one of her clients , maybe a judge?

    So, do you think that welfare fraud (on an individual scale - not large criminal rings) is punished? What do think (guess) the percentage of liars get welfare?

    ((discussion, not argument))


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    As you are well aware, the article presents no such breakdown.

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    Re: The Free Lunch

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    That seems to be untrue
    On Friday, the 30-year-old Wright was sentenced to 10 months in jail for 20 counts including prostitution, conspiracy, tax evasion and theft by deception.

    The scandal in the seaside town of Kennebunk, known for its sea captain's mansions, beaches and New England charm, became a sensation following reports that she had at least 150 clients, some of them prominent. So far, those who have been charged include a former mayor, a high school hockey coach, a minister, a lawyer and a firefighter.

    Wright was originally charged with 106 counts. All the counts in the agreement were misdemeanors, including three counts relating to welfare and tax fraud that were reduced from felonies.
    There is no felony charges, just misdemeanors. Welfare and tax fraud gets you a misdemeanor, now that is real punishment, if I say so myself.
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    Re: The Free Lunch

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    As you are well aware, tax evasion or pimping would get you serious jail time. Her short sentence give me insight to a least one of her clients , maybe a judge?

    So, do you think that welfare fraud (on an individual scale - not large criminal rings) is punished? What do think (guess) the percentage of liars get welfare?

    ((discussion, not argument))
    Having worked around the justice system, I am aware of how often serious offenses do not receive serious jail time.

    As the article strongly implies, she made a plea bargain with the DA. Plea bargains often result in jail sentences far less than what would have been applied had the case gone to trial, and the offender found guilty. I don't see how the reduced sentence offers any insight into any relationships she may or may not have had.

    As far as you question goes, everyone lies at one time or another, so just divide the # of people receiving welfare by the total population and you'll have your answer (Note: the majority of welfare recipients are young children)
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    Re: The Free Lunch

    Young children don't get welfare. Their parents/guardians do. To me, false welfare claims should be severely punished and we should increase our generosity to those who are in dire need and show good faith.


    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Having worked around the justice system, I am aware of how often serious offenses do not receive serious jail time.

    As the article strongly implies, she made a plea bargain with the DA. Plea bargains often result in jail sentences far less than what would have been applied had the case gone to trial, and the offender found guilty. I don't see how the reduced sentence offers any insight into any relationships she may or may not have had.

    As far as you question goes, everyone lies at one time or another, so just divide the # of people receiving welfare by the total population and you'll have your answer (Note: the majority of welfare recipients are young children)

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    Re: The Free Lunch

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Having never (and I am grateful) needed public assistance, I don't know how that works. I suppose they give you a monthly allowance and allow you to let it accumulate. Why anyone would sond their own money and let their welfare funds accumulate is pretty hard to comprehend. Is this common?

    Recently, I was in line behind an EBT lady and I offered to pay her tab to get her the **** out of my way since she was moving so slow. She had 33 on her EBT card. So by [paying $5 or so, I got 33 credit - lucky me. So I must admit I'm baffled about this case. Do you have a link to the story please?
    Think thats kind of the point of picture. If you're able to accumulate that much form the monthly direct deposit, you clearly don't need the assistance. I like to see these cards zero-ed out as the monthly direct deposit is deposited. You shouldn't be able to "bank" public assistance. If you are, you're clearly getting too much. Frankly, I'd like them to bring the paper food stamps back.

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    Re: The Free Lunch

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Young children don't get welfare. Their parents/guardians do. To me, false welfare claims should be severely punished and we should increase our generosity to those who are in dire need and show good faith.
    Wrong. Having much experience with the matter, I can say with certainty that most recipients are young children.
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    Re: The Free Lunch

    I agree with you. This is an obvious case of system manipulation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    Think thats kind of the point of picture. If you're able to accumulate that much form the monthly direct deposit, you clearly don't need the assistance. I like to see these cards zero-ed out as the monthly direct deposit is deposited. You shouldn't be able to "bank" public assistance. If you are, you're clearly getting too much. Frankly, I'd like them to bring the paper food stamps back.

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    Re: The Free Lunch

    Are you being intentionally bizarre? "Young children" don't apply for welfare. The parents do on their behalf. The parents are (potentially) the deceptive ones, not the children.

    Since you are so experienced, provide a link that shows children receiving direct welfare benefits. Amaze me please.


    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Wrong. Having much experience with the matter, I can say with certainty that most recipients are young children.

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