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Cops: Letters to nyc mayor test positive for ricin

You've basically just justified the extra DHS scrutiny of extreme right wing groups and right wing extremists whether you wanted to or not.

And you have a problem with a politician working within the confines of the law, so having him assassinated is your answer. Quite American of you. Yeah.

The second amendment bars his action. That is not working inside the confines of the law.

Btw, how do you like how he ignored the term limits that the people put in place? He did a great job working inside the law there, right?
 
Unless learned who did it, there is no way to know who, why or what motive. It could be a reverse action as a PR move.
 
The second amendment bars his action. That is not working inside the confines of the law.

Btw, how do you like how he ignored the term limits that the people put in place? He did a great job working inside the law there, right?

Was the 2nd amendment violated?

Answer: No. So, he's worked within the confines of the law

As far as his third term, the city council sets the term limits for the mayor - regardless of WHY they voted to allow a third term, they DID VOTE TO ALLOW IT. So again, he has operated within the confines of the established law at the time.

Try again
 
You've basically just justified the extra DHS scrutiny of extreme right wing groups and right wing extremists whether you wanted to or not.

You know what the problem with that is besides the obvious? You see, the more that they do it the more the people they are going after will feel justified and the worse their problem will become. People are funny like that.
 
Was the 2nd amendment violated?

Answer: No. So, he's worked within the confines of the law

Would you like to read the law again? You're very much wrong with that.

As far as his third term, the city council sets the term limits for the mayor - regardless of WHY they voted to allow a third term, they DID VOTE TO ALLOW IT. So again, he has operated within the confines of the established law at the time.

Try again

Which they had no authority to do. Term limits can not simply be ignored by the will of the government.
 
Would you like to read the law again? You're very much wrong with that.




Which they had no authority to do. Term limits can not simply be ignored by the will of the government.

The City government WRITES the laws regarding CITY term limits. Take a civics class. The city gov't VOTED to extend term limits to 3 terms. What part of that do you not understand? They set the term limits within THEIR CITY, period. Get it?

I'm not very much wrong, and the courts have not held any Bloomberg laws in violation of the second amendment. Just because he MAY WANT to violate it, does not mean that he has violated it. There's a huge difference which you do not seem to understand.
 
Wait so you would celebrate him being murdered but wouldnt condone the action? All because you believe a democratically elected mayor is a "tyrant" for having a different position on an issue than you?
Celebrate? Yes, encourage wholesale murder, no. See, there is a difference between passing laws based upon necessity and public harm versus enforcing one's beliefs against the populace, personally I think Bloomberg is the lowest of human life and he can't leave the world quickly enough, HOWEVER, my personal feelings should an assasination attempt become successful are seperate from what is the morally correct choice, I can think in more than one dimension at a time.
 
I despise Bloomberg's politics. I'm not a fan of him, but I'd never want him or anyone else poisoned or killed over what they believe and support.

I'm disgusted that anyone finds this excusable or even that it has merit. What is tyrannical is killing people over their rights to free speech and the freedom to believe and vote how they want to.
 
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Wow. And so all those people who were exposed to a potentially lethal poison, that's okay with you because you want to see Bloomberg dead? :shock:

That kind of thinking is what shocked me about this thread. People weren't talking about the crazy person who did this, they were basically saying "'Atta boy!" because Bloomberg was the target without a single thought about the others who could be and possibly were harmed. :(


Edited to add: I am NOT a Bloomberg fan. I wouldn't vote for him if he were running for dogcatcher, and his nanny-dictator policies in NYC make me furious. But I still don't want the man assassinated, and I most certainly don't want others harmed by the attempt.
I am a Jeffersonian philosopher, one dead tyrant puts the rest on notice. While I don't personally encourage, endorse, or condone political killing there is a chance that someone will try, and as I've been warning people for quite a few years, a charged political climate with emboldened politicians will lead to violence. There are psychopaths out there and all they need is one too many pushes to go over that cliff, I'd rather if that happens that someone who deserves it(like a tyrannical politician) suffer their consequences than innocents in public.

Here's the thing, I'm not a cold blooded man, but I am a logical one. Logic dictates that we are at a political crossroads and they are always violent, I HATE Bloomberg and would rather him lose politically, but if a psychopath does get him I'm not going to hide my feelings of glee. The difference is I don't wish for his death, but don't have a thimble's worth of sympathy for him either.
 
The City government WRITES the laws regarding CITY term limits. Take a civics class. The city gov't VOTED to extend term limits to 3 terms. What part of that do you not understand? They set the term limits within THEIR CITY, period. Get it?

I don't need to take a civics class. The people voted for term limits to be put on the Mayor of NYC and as soon as the city wanted them gone they ignored the people and voted them gone. It was an exercise of self interest and a disregard for the wishes of the people. If I recall they didn't even last one election cycle.

I'm not very much wrong, and the courts have not held any Bloomberg laws in violation of the second amendment. Just because he MAY WANT to violate it, does not mean that he has violated it. There's a huge difference which you do not seem to understand.

Again, you should read the second amendment. I'm not wishing anything, but merely following the law.
 
Is it ok to cheer the murder of John Lennon while not supporting the actions of Marc David Chapman?

How about cheering the attempted murder of President Ronald Reagan while not supporting the actions of John Hinkley, Jr.?
 
You've basically just justified the extra DHS scrutiny of extreme right wing groups and right wing extremists whether you wanted to or not.
I'm not in the right wing, hate to break that to you. BTW, the reason the nutcases are coming out are because of the government intrusions, adding more will increase the number of violent pushback.

And you have a problem with a politician working within the confines of the law, so having him assassinated is your answer. Quite American of you. Yeah. Oh wait, I'm sorry - you don't condone the action, just the results. Nice mental gymnastics there.
Bloomberg has broken quite a few laws, don't kid yourself.
 
The second amendment bars his action. That is not working inside the confines of the law.

Btw, how do you like how he ignored the term limits that the people put in place? He did a great job working inside the law there, right?
Violated multiple state and federal laws in that sorry excuse for a "sting" in Arizona, using NYC officers for unlicensed surveillance outside of their jurisdiction in an attempt to illegally purchase weapons across state lines.
 
I don't need to take a civics class. The people voted for term limits to be put on the Mayor of NYC and as soon as the city wanted them gone they ignored the people and voted them gone. It was an exercise of self interest and a disregard for the wishes of the people. If I recall they didn't even last one election cycle.



Again, you should read the second amendment. I'm not wishing anything, but merely following the law.


The 'people' did not 'vote for term limits to be put on the Mayor of NYC' as you falsely claim.

The people of NYC DO NOT VOTE FOR TERM LIMITS. EVER. THE CITY COUNCIL SETS TERM LIMITS.

You made an incorrect claim and now you're in so deep you're just embarrased to back off. It's OK. I won't hold it against you. Maybe you'll grow up one day.

Which law that Bloomberg has instituted has violated the second amendment? Specifically, please.
 
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I'm not in the right wing, hate to break that to you. BTW, the reason the nutcases are coming out are because of the government intrusions, adding more will increase the number of violent pushback.

Exactly. These people are having a problem with the amount of authority the government has in their lives. What is the best of action for the government? They can either do more of the same and make them even more angry or they can back off and give them some space? It's not exactly hard to figure out, really.
 
The people of NYC DO NOT VOTE FOR TERM LIMITS. EVER. THE CITY COUNCIL SETS TERM LIMITS.

You made an incorrect claim and now you're in so deep you're just embarrased to back off. It's OK. I won't hold it against you. Maybe you'll grow up one day.

Lol! Why would I lie?

Which law that Bloomberg has instituted has violated the second amendment? Specifically, please.

All of them in regards to arms.
 
Lol! Why would I lie?



All of them in regards to arms.

Thought so. Your answers (non answers, actually) speak volumes.

I don't know if you're lying or just ignorant so how should I know WHY you'd lie?
 
Thought so. Your answers (non answers, actually) speak volumes. Thanks for playing.

Well, since all my arguments still stand I'm ok with you leaving if you want.
 
Maybe that will wake the little prick up to the historical fact that tyrannical actions tend to be met with heavy resisitance.

Sorry, but this statement is pretty scary. It is as if you are sanctioning this guy's actions. When our citizenry loses civility we as a society are in deep do do. You illustrate we are closer to such an event than I would like to believe. Usually left and right can agree on what is right and what is wrong in terms of defense of our society. I do not see agreement here at all.
 
No, what is scary is you thinking "he had it coming"...
Did I say "he had it coming"? No, I said it should be a wakeup call, politicians are arrogant, they think they live in a vacuum without consequences, many times exempting themselves from their own rules and they think they are untouchable. Well, assassination attempts have a bit of a sobering effect if one is paying attention, and, like I've said, in politically heated climates pushing enough people eventually means you piss off nutcases, not a good idea. I further said that I have no sympathy for the little jerk and in fact would celebrate if someone took him out, I also said I don't encourage it.

Which part of this are you not getting? I can hate someone, not wish them death, but see cause to celebrate if they do, I think on multiple levels.
 
The second amendment bars his action. That is not working inside the confines of the law.

Btw, how do you like how he ignored the term limits that the people put in place? He did a great job working inside the law there, right?

The 1st amendment allows Bloomberg to state his opinion without fear of reprisal. The Supreme court determines what is Constitutional.
Sending a dangerous toxin through the U.S. Mail is a Federal offense and who ever did it can kiss their ass goodbye.
Go ahead, try some stunt like this yourself and see.
 
Maybe that will wake the little prick up to the historical fact that tyrannical actions tend to be met with heavy resisitance.

Hellooooo FBI.....

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I'm not in the right wing, hate to break that to you. BTW, the reason the nutcases are coming out are because of the government intrusions, adding more will increase the number of violent pushback.

Bloomberg has broken quite a few laws, don't kid yourself.
Uh, hate to break it to you, but you are the epitamy of right wing nutcase in all it's glory.
 
The 1st amendment allows Bloomberg to state his opinion without fear of reprisal. The Supreme court determines what is Constitutional.
Sending a dangerous toxin through the U.S. Mail is a Federal offense and who ever did it can kiss their ass goodbye.
Go ahead, try some stunt like this yourself and see.

Yeah, the problem isn't that he is a load mouth jackass, but that he acts on his beliefs that have no place in a free society. Why would I care if a person that doesn't respect the liberty of the people is killed? I have absolutely no reason at all to care about him. A little jackass like him that disrespects people should not be surprised no one respects him in return or cares if he lives or dies.
 
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