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    Re: Mothers now top earners in 4 in 10 US households

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    You'd think it would be to find a path in life that they love. Or that they choose their friends wisely. Or that they always be honest with themselves. Nope, the most important thing is to be a proper breeder. Because that's what women are for, right? Marriage and babies. You don't say "be careful with sex, use protection, and choose your partners wisely", you couch it in an antiquated female duty to marry and reproduce. Even if you mean well, and I actually think you do, you're still reinforcing the system that keeps women subservient. You shouldn't do that to people you love.
    Let me re-quote the comment you responded to:

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod
    I tell my daughters often that the single most important decision they will make in life is who they decide to marry and have children with. Marry well - meaning someone is who is responsible, committed to the marriage, and driven to provide - and life is relatively straightforward and easy to manage. Latch on to a loser, or get knocked up by a neanderthal, and life will be a difficult struggle to the end of their days.
    Where in there is he explicitly stating that a man has to be involved at all?

    I suppose the "knocked up by a neanderthal" comment can be perceived that way but it isn't a necessary conclusion.

    A lesbian woman can get involved with a loser lesbian who has neanderthal-like conceptions of what a relationship should be and that's likely to turn out as baddly for her as if she had gotten involved with a neanderthal-like man.

    I think he's giving his girls some awesome advice: don't get involved with an a$$hole or you're likely to suffer for it.

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    Re: Mothers now top earners in 4 in 10 US households

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Do you have sons? If so, tell you sons.
    No, and I would. The same EXACT advice goes for boys, too. Who you make these kinds of life-altering decisions with will have a tremendous impact on your happiness for the rest of your days.

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    Re: Mothers now top earners in 4 in 10 US households

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    You'd think it would be to find a path in life that they love. Or that they choose their friends wisely. Or that they always be honest with themselves. Nope, the most important thing is to be a proper breeder. Because that's what women are for, right? Marriage and babies. You don't say "be careful with sex, use protection, and choose your partners wisely", you couch it in an antiquated female duty to marry and reproduce. Even if you mean well, and I actually think you do, you're still reinforcing the system that keeps women subservient. You shouldn't do that to people you love.
    No, I didn't say that at all, but your response is predictable. It's about making critical decision as to who you marry and have children with. Not having kids at all is certainly part of that choice. Having kids with the wrong person, and you'll be playing catchup the rest of your life.

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    Re: Mothers now top earners in 4 in 10 US households

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    You'd think it would be to find a path in life that they love. Or that they choose their friends wisely. Or that they always be honest with themselves. Nope, the most important thing is to be a proper breeder. Because that's what women are for, right? Marriage and babies. You don't say "be careful with sex, use protection, and choose your partners wisely", you couch it in an antiquated female duty to marry and reproduce. Even if you mean well, and I actually think you do, you're still reinforcing the system that keeps women subservient. You shouldn't do that to people you love.
    Takes two to tango. If I tell my sons the same exact advice nobody would fly off the handle about it.

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    Re: Mothers now top earners in 4 in 10 US households

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I would never want to be married to a woman who makes more than I do. Too weird.
    I'm married to a woman who makes more than I do.

    Different strokes for different folks and all but I don't have the slightest problem with it. I'm actually very proud of her.

    It was said earlier in the thread that you need a two-income family to properly raise children in today's society/economy.

    While I don't necessarially think that you need two salaries it certainly doesn't hurt.

    Now obviously there are all sorts of reasons why a couple might decide, or might have to accept, that it's for the best if one of the parents stays-at-home but let's ignore them for the moment because they're immaterial to my point.

    Let's start with the premise that we have a couple that has decided that it is in the best interest of their family (as a matter of choice or necessity) for both to work.

    Given that, wouldn't more income be better, regardless of who is bringing it into the home?

    Looking at it from a different perspective, renumeration is a measure of success in a given career (any career). It's not the only measure, but it is certainly a measure.

    Since I love my wife and want her to be as successful in her career as she can possibly be why would I begrudge her increasing renumeration for any reason?

    From still another perspective, my wife and I have different careers. Her market range salary is necessarially going to be different than mine and her progression up the ladder is necessarially going to be different than mine.

    Comparing my salary to hers is about as useful as comparing apples to oranges.

    Finally, last perspective, I happen to have one of them big dicks and I happen to be a man's man, so I don't really need to compare myself to women in order to establish some base rate degree of manliness. And it doesn't hurt that, despite the fact that she earns more than me, I'm not doing too baddly in my own right.

    None of this is meant to change your mind.

    If you think it would be wierd to be married to a woman who earns more money than you then, like I said at the outset, different strokes for different folks.

    I'm just offering an alternative view/opinion on the matter.

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    Re: Mothers now top earners in 4 in 10 US households

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Many men are even willing to be the sole bread winner, how many women do you know that will do that? I challenge you to find one, my guess is they are extremely rare.
    Got the t-shirt.

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    Re: Mothers now top earners in 4 in 10 US households

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    It is sad and discouraging. Our inner-city poor (black/white, doesn't make a lot of difference) are family-berift. Women picking gang-bangers to have children with, not caring if they have jobs, not even wanting a partner, babies by various babies' daddies. These women are idiots.

    Prediction: Thread degrades to accusations of racism in 5...4...3...2...1!
    I recently read an article (no link) that said that as a result of the gentrification of many inner-cities, combined with the lower real estate values of suburban markets, more poor people live in suburbia than in cities.
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    Re: Mothers now top earners in 4 in 10 US households

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    I'm sad that I have to point out to you that I was making a joke. Your response indicates that you aren't really reading the thread.
    You're right, I hadn't. Sorry.

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    Re: Mothers now top earners in 4 in 10 US households

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    No, and I would. The same EXACT advice goes for boys, too. Who you make these kinds of life-altering decisions with will have a tremendous impact on your happiness for the rest of your days.
    Virtually nothing will more affect a person's life than who she/he marries and has children with. No doubt about it. I don't think many couples really realize that.

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    Re: Mothers now top earners in 4 in 10 US households

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Not what I wrote at all. Not by a long shot. It's about choosing who you have children with if you have them.

    Read the article.
    We can't look to the government for forced sterilization programs or any similar solution. You're blaming women and minorities for poverty and a host of other social problems.

    Some people would rather argue in favor of a pro woman work setting, where there are daycares and shorter work days so they can spend time doing homework and other activities with the kids.

    As more women become CEOs, hopefully these things will change.

    But as always, I am pro choice. I don't like abortion, but I can still respect minority women for choosing to parent over deciding to abort. I consistently and always save judgment of women becoming pregnant in any situation. It seems like our values strongly differ here.

    You're judging these women for reproducing and having babies, and you would still negativity judge them if they got an abortion. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. As somebody else said, this isn't the 1800s.

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