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    Re: Mothers now top earners in 4 in 10 US households

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    So the only thing women should think about is finding a man to provide and protect them and start producing babies?
    ...and a false dichotomy fallacy. You're just wandering around the forums using every debate fallacy to fill a quota, maybe?
    The morality of abortion is not a religious belief, any more than the morality of slavery, apartheid, rape, larceny, murder or arson is a religious belief. These are norms of the natural law of mankind and can be legislated even in a completely religionless society.

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    Re: Mothers now top earners in 4 in 10 US households

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    That's the point of the article. In a single-parent household, obviously that parent is the high earner, and when 63 percent of that 4/10 is made up of single mothers.......well, that's the reason for the 4/10.

    The article didn't state what the percentage was in married families with two earners.

    EDIT: Actually it did, the mother is the breadwinner in 15 percent of married couples.
    And what percent of the 4/10 stat was married couples?

    Mixing the two stats makes the discussion of either rather tedious.

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    Re: Mothers now top earners in 4 in 10 US households

    In this economy people need two steady incomes to support a family

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    Re: Mothers now top earners in 4 in 10 US households

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    No it is not... it so far from reality in the 21st century as it can be. Women have rights now days... and can think for themselves. They are not the slaves of men.



    Well that implies that you have to have children..... this is the 21st century and women are not slaves of men in the western world. They dont HAVE to have children like in the "good old days".
    Good gawd, you missed the point entirely.

    So if women are so "free from men" and don't "need to have kids anymore", why are unmarried women having them in litters? .

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    Re: Mothers now top earners in 4 in 10 US households

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    And what percent of the 4/10 stat was married couples?

    Mixing the two stats makes the discussion of either rather tedious.
    37 percent married, 63 percent single moms.

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    Re: Mothers now top earners in 4 in 10 US households

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    No it is not... it so far from reality in the 21st century as it can be. Women have rights now days... and can think for themselves. They are not the slaves of men.



    Well that implies that you have to have children..... this is the 21st century and women are not slaves of men in the western world. They dont HAVE to have children like in the "good old days".
    Just FYI, women have always been able to think for themselves.

    And while it's true that women don't "have" to have children, what Erod's saying is, in my opinion, truthful: The ideal situation is two loving parents. Sometimes, it's better for the family to be led by one parent, and I've done this. But it's terribly hard even if the woman has a marketable skill-set.

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    Re: Mothers now top earners in 4 in 10 US households

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    37 percent married, 63 percent single moms.
    Well, I'm all for women being the top earner in married households, it should be 50%. I'm not for single parents, I think that's a very difficult situation wherein it is impossible to avoid compromising the needs of the child.

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    Re: Mothers now top earners in 4 in 10 US households

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    I have and it shows that times are changing... I would say for the better. I would rather have a single mom/dad that is loving and caring than live in a house with a mother and father who cant stand each other but are forced by social norms to stay together to raise children that also were most likely forced on them by social pressures from family.

    Who you have children with should always be based on love, not social pressure and no being married is in no way a requirement.
    No one is forcing anyone, and there are no "requirements".

    But it makes an ENORMOUS difference in the eventual lives of those children. Growing up in a happy two-parent home is the greatest advantage a kid can have these days.

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    Re: Mothers now top earners in 4 in 10 US households

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Who you have children with should always be based on love, not social pressure and no being married is in no way a requirement.
    Who you make a baby with generally is always based on love. Who sticks around after the "love" fades away and the hard work of raising a baby starts makes the social pressure a necessary part of the equation. Babies need more than itinerant parents who feelings about each other are blown around like leaves in the wind.
    The morality of abortion is not a religious belief, any more than the morality of slavery, apartheid, rape, larceny, murder or arson is a religious belief. These are norms of the natural law of mankind and can be legislated even in a completely religionless society.

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    Re: Mothers now top earners in 4 in 10 US households

    Just curious - does your ideal happy 2 parent household include same sex partners?
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