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    Re: Groups Targeted by I.R.S. Tested Rules on Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    It's not just the IRS employees who would lose their jobs though. That's kind of what I was getting at.
    Ok? Still not seeing why any bureaucrats job is more important than anyone elses....
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    Re: Groups Targeted by I.R.S. Tested Rules on Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    I hope this puts all the IRS scandal crap to rest. These groups should have been targeted because they were not eligible for tax exempt status and were still applying.
    Again you fail to understand the most elementary information. The problem is they were targeted for special scrutiny not conducted on liberal orgs? Get it now?
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    Re: Groups Targeted by I.R.S. Tested Rules on Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Well, here's the deal on the IRS scandal, the Benghazi scandal, and the AP scandal:

    Obama is not a Muslim. Obama did not take his oath of office on the Koran. Obama's campaign was not funded by Hugo Chavez. The bulk of Obama's donations did not come from George Soros. Obama's birth certificate was not a forgery. Obama did not remove the American flag from his plane. Obama did not tell the Wall Street Journal that he wanted to redistribute the wealth. Fannie Mae Executives were never Obama's advisors. Obama did not file a lawsuit to force banks into giving loans to poor people who couldn't pay them off. Bill Ayers was not Obama's mentor. Obama did not admit to being a Muslim on ABC. Obama did not fail to qualify for a security clearance. Obama did not allow Palestinians to resettle in the United States. Obama did not receive aid for college from Indonesia. Obama never ordered his college records sealed. Obama was not born in Kenya. The AP never identified Obama as having been born in Kenya. Obama did not remove his shoes for Islamic Prayer Day. Obama never used teleprompters to speak to school children. Obama never tried to ban recreational fishing. Obama never used stimulus funds to save his brother-in-law's job. Obama has never refused to sign Eagle Scout certificates. Obama never surrendered his law license. Obama never cancelled a National Day of Prayer. Obama did not change the decor in the Oval Office. Obama never flew his dog on it's own airplane. Obama's trip to India did not cost 200 million dollars a day. Obama did not take off his wedding ring for Ramadan. Obama never used a fake social security card. Obama never had a foreign student ID. Obama has not signed more executive orders than any other president. Obama never signed an executive order giving him special powers. Obama did not have a marine relieved because he recognized an upside down flag pin on Obama's lapel. Obama never suppressed broadcasts from FOX News. Obama's wedding ring contains no Islamic inscriptions. A grand jury has never indicted Obama. Obama was not adopted. Obama never sold guns to the Taliban. Obama has not been previously divorced. Obama has never been on the board of directors of Factcheck.org. Obama is not creating FEMA death camps. Obama is not a Communist. Obama does not read antiamerican books. Sandy Hook was not a hoax created by Obama. Obama does not hate America.

    The above, and many more, are all claims made by those who hate Obama, and they have all been debunked....... Which brings me to the point I am about to make.....

    There is a very good reason why the Benghazi scandal, the IRS scandal, and the AP scandal are not significantly impacting Obama's favorability numbers. When you cry wolf long enough, people stop giving a damn about anything you have to say, and just see you as liars, and nothing more. Credibility is everything. Once you lose that, you lose everything, and end up with nothing..... A point which has now been proven in real life by those who saw character assassination as a means to an end.
    Lol....the right wingers are the ones with the credibility problem ? Not quite.

    Check the polls that show the majority believe the targeting of Conservatives didn't just stop at the IRS.

    Look, you come in here with a ridiculous self created " cry wolf " account of the scandals, repeating totally irrelevant left wing talking points just to marginalize three scandals that Liberals WISH would have happened under Bush and don't post one single fact or link to back up your silly one dimensional hypothesis.

    60% Say It

    Your right "credibility is everything" as you ignore the IRS scandal, the ridiculous accounts from IRS officials under oath, including a key central figure pleading the fifth and then preach to us about " accountability".

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    Re: Groups Targeted by I.R.S. Tested Rules on Politics

    Seems pretty obvious that more Republican groups would fall to scrutiny than Democratic groups. Poor people generally favor democrats, but are too apathetic to bother voting.

    The Democrat groups could get the results they wanted by spending a large chunk of their money on apolitical "get out and vote" campaigns with "vote Democrat" as just the icing on the cake. The Republican groups were hobbled because they had to spend all their money on "vote Republican, not Democrat" campaigns.

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    Re: Groups Targeted by I.R.S. Tested Rules on Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Well, here's the deal on the IRS scandal, the Benghazi scandal, and the AP scandal:

    Obama is not a Muslim. Obama did not take his oath of office on the Koran. Obama's campaign was not funded by Hugo Chavez. The bulk of Obama's donations did not come from George Soros. Obama's birth certificate was not a forgery. Obama did not remove the American flag from his plane. Obama did not tell the Wall Street Journal that he wanted to redistribute the wealth. Fannie Mae Executives were never Obama's advisors. Obama did not file a lawsuit to force banks into giving loans to poor people who couldn't pay them off. Bill Ayers was not Obama's mentor. Obama did not admit to being a Muslim on ABC. Obama did not fail to qualify for a security clearance. Obama did not allow Palestinians to resettle in the United States. Obama did not receive aid for college from Indonesia. Obama never ordered his college records sealed. Obama was not born in Kenya. The AP never identified Obama as having been born in Kenya. Obama did not remove his shoes for Islamic Prayer Day. Obama never used teleprompters to speak to school children. Obama never tried to ban recreational fishing. Obama never used stimulus funds to save his brother-in-law's job. Obama has never refused to sign Eagle Scout certificates. Obama never surrendered his law license. Obama never cancelled a National Day of Prayer. Obama did not change the decor in the Oval Office. Obama never flew his dog on it's own airplane. Obama's trip to India did not cost 200 million dollars a day. Obama did not take off his wedding ring for Ramadan. Obama never used a fake social security card. Obama never had a foreign student ID. Obama has not signed more executive orders than any other president. Obama never signed an executive order giving him special powers. Obama did not have a marine relieved because he recognized an upside down flag pin on Obama's lapel. Obama never suppressed broadcasts from FOX News. Obama's wedding ring contains no Islamic inscriptions. A grand jury has never indicted Obama. Obama was not adopted. Obama never sold guns to the Taliban. Obama has not been previously divorced. Obama has never been on the board of directors of Factcheck.org. Obama is not creating FEMA death camps. Obama is not a Communist. Obama does not read antiamerican books. Sandy Hook was not a hoax created by Obama. Obama does not hate America.

    The above, and many more, are all claims made by those who hate Obama, and they have all been debunked....... Which brings me to the point I am about to make.....

    There is a very good reason why the Benghazi scandal, the IRS scandal, and the AP scandal are not significantly impacting Obama's favorability numbers. When you cry wolf long enough, people stop giving a damn about anything you have to say, and just see you as liars, and nothing more. Credibility is everything. Once you lose that, you lose everything, and end up with nothing..... A point which has now been proven in real life by those who saw character assassination as a means to an end.
    Do you have anything relevant to add regarding the OP, or more this ****?
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    Re: Groups Targeted by I.R.S. Tested Rules on Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by ChunkySalsa View Post
    Seems pretty obvious that more Republican groups would fall to scrutiny than Democratic groups. Poor people generally favor democrats, but are too apathetic to bother voting.

    The Democrat groups could get the results they wanted by spending a large chunk of their money on apolitical "get out and vote" campaigns with "vote Democrat" as just the icing on the cake. The Republican groups were hobbled because they had to spend all their money on "vote Republican, not Democrat" campaigns.
    It's difficult to vote to be a responsible citizen, and easy to vote for free money.
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    Re: Groups Targeted by I.R.S. Tested Rules on Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Again you fail to understand the most elementary information. The problem is they were targeted for special scrutiny not conducted on liberal orgs? Get it now?
    True but they were trying to cheat the tax system that is undeniable as well. Neither these conservative groups nor the similar liberal groups should have gotten tax free status, problem is that this IRS office only gave the special scrunity to the conservative side.

    We shouldn't be calling on the IRS to stop this scrutiny of political groups trying to pretend to be social welfare organizations, but instead calling for them to do all this and more to everyone. No one should be able to cheat the tax system because of politics and we should want anyone to be able to cheat it because we like their politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    It's difficult to vote to be a responsible citizen, and easy to vote for free money.
    Warren Buffett would agree with you.

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    Wonderful....so by the great logic presented here, we should start racially profiling for terrorism and if that turns up instances that would actually normally send up red flags then that would prove that said racially profiling is a-okay



    Attempting to enforce the law is fine. Tailoring your search for law violations in a way that targets violators of a particular political view point, rather than tailored in a way that simply searches for any violators, is not fine.

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    Re: Groups Targeted by I.R.S. Tested Rules on Politics

    Dems freaking out over the very tactics they invented and get them elected.

    Irony.

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