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    Re: Texas Shooting Spree Leaves 2 Dead, 5 Wounded

    Quote Originally Posted by Heebie Jeebie View Post
    If you need to shoot while driving it's not a bad choice!
    I prefer an F-22

    When it comes to beating traffic, you can't do any better.

    Though you may have to modify your driveway to accommodate it
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    Re: Texas Shooting Spree Leaves 2 Dead, 5 Wounded

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Texas Shooting Spree Leaves 2 Dead, 5 Wounded

    its from Reuters..

    When will these terror attacks by common Americans stop?
    Terror attacks... you sound like George Bush.
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    Re: Texas Shooting Spree Leaves 2 Dead, 5 Wounded

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Shopping sprees can be just as deadly:


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    Re: Texas Shooting Spree Leaves 2 Dead, 5 Wounded

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Shopping sprees can be just as deadly:
    Good analogy

    In the US, dying while shopping is the equivalent of martyring oneself for Mohammed in Iraq
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    Re: Texas Shooting Spree Leaves 2 Dead, 5 Wounded

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    You interpreted right. See above post for clarification.
    So they've found some evidence that psychopaths have some detectable readings using this fMRI, but have they yet found a psychopath using such readings? Correlation does not equal causation. Still in the realm of unproven science. Could it eventually be helpful? Perhaps, but I don't see anything that says we should rely on the results.

    It does smack of though police.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I prefer an F-22

    When it comes to beating traffic, you can't do any better.

    Though you may have to modify your driveway to accommodate it
    Yeah I had trouble fitting mine in my garage until I re-did it.
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    Re: Texas Shooting Spree Leaves 2 Dead, 5 Wounded

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    These attacks, like most crime in the United States, will stop once the people of the United States begin demanding that we once again start punishing criminals; incarcerating the ones who deserve it and executing the ones who have no chance to ever live within societies rules; and return to a society that puts its mentally incompetent members into the institutions that can deal with them. Until we stop believing that criminals and the mentally ill can be a part of the general society without restraint, these things will continue to occur. If not with a gun, with a knife (Google - Jessica Short, Middletown, CT), a bat, a bomb, etc....
    Just remember that it was St Ronnie back when he was governor of California who started the closing of state mental institutions primarily for budget reasons. Since so many on the right don't like paying taxes which were once upon a time used to operate mental asylums, it seems highly improbable that any new ones will be opened in the foreseeable future.
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    Re: Texas Shooting Spree Leaves 2 Dead, 5 Wounded

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Oh yeah, because part of all of our jobs in life is to carry around weapons to shoot at the crazies. Yeah, that won't lead to any more problems. Why don't we just give people grenades and drones....oh forget it i know where this is going with you.
    When I pulled Entry Control Point duty, my personal weapon was the M249, a belt-fed machine gun, loaded with SLAP rounds. This was so that I could disable vehicles should they run a check point or perform a drive-by.

    Most CCW civilians have a small caliber, short-range hand guns. That gun is perfectly useless against a vehicle, especially if hollow-points (a popular self-defense round) are loaded.

    In order for a small hand gun to be effective against a drive-by, the hand-gunner would have to run up to the truck and get within 8-10 feet of the moving truck and firing gunman in order to have a chance.

    A rifle would be effective, and yes it very well could take a full 30 rounds to stop a truck during a drive-by, but your side has demonized rifles, 30rnd mags, carrying a rifle in public and self-defense.

    Aside from the criminal, I blame you and your kind for this incident. However, I place more blame on pro-gun-rights for putting up with gun control laws at all.
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    Re: Texas Shooting Spree Leaves 2 Dead, 5 Wounded

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    So they've found some evidence that psychopaths have some detectable readings using this fMRI, but have they yet found a psychopath using such readings? Correlation does not equal causation. Still in the realm of unproven science. Could it eventually be helpful? Perhaps, but I don't see anything that says we should rely on the results.

    It does smack of though police.
    What do you mean "Correlation does not prove causation?" All you need in this case is a good correlation to associate a personality or character disorder with an fMRI image.

    How can fMRI cause one to have personality and/or character disorders anyway!? What is this? Favorite scientific statement quote day?

    So what did I say then?

    I said this could have been prevented if there were background checks involving fMRI. I do not see why you should not rely on these findings. It is not like we as scientists are only amusing ourselves with these findings. We expect them to be used for common good. Such as stopping mass shootings for instance with background checks involving fMRI's.
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    Re: Texas Shooting Spree Leaves 2 Dead, 5 Wounded

    It does appear that people get so involved in their political and personal disputes they tend to forget the actual topic of threads

    Gunman in Texas shooting spree was stationed at Marine base

    (Reuters) - A Texas gunman who killed one person and wounded five others before being shot to death by police was stationed at a North Carolina Marine base, the Texas Department of Public Safety said on Monday.

    The gunman was identified as Esteban Smith, 23, who was stationed at Camp Lejeune, the agency said in a statement.
    Then there is this other bit of news
    Police believe North Carolina Marine killed wife before Texas shooting spree | The Raw Story

    Authorities in North Carolina on Tuesday confirmed that the body of a woman found in a Jacksonville hotel room on Sunday was Rubi Estefania, who had been married to the Marine killed by police during a shooting spree in Texas shortly before her body was discovered.

    On Monday, Texas Department of Public Safety said that the 23-year-old Marine had been killed during a Sunday shootout with a Highway Patrol trooper and a game warden. Smith had been firing randomly from his truck when he killed a 41-year-old woman and five other people, including Concho County Sheriff Richard Doane.

    At the time, it was not clear what prompted the shooting, but authorities said that Smith was carrying an assault rifle, a handgun and hundreds of rounds of ammunition.
    I don't think a brain scan or a background check would have prevented this shooter from doing what he did.
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