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    Re: Texas Shooting Spree Leaves 2 Dead, 5 Wounded

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    You are essentially asking everyone to be one of your guinea pigs under the hope of getting enough data to prove this technology and in the hope of finding one person who may be guilty of wanting to act as a psychopath. Is that essentially correct? If someone wants to volunteer to be examined, then that is their business. If you want to make it required upon commitment to a mental institution or a prison, I can understand that too. To screen millions of innocent people in the hopes of finding one bad one based upon unproven, yet perhaps promising technology, is a path I do not want society to take.
    Not entirely correct. The "millions" you speak of would be Americans who can and want to get a legal gun. The rest do not need to be screened.

    Secondly, we would not be searching for one "bad apple" (that can poison a dozen like in Texas), but for millions of: psychopaths, sociopaths, mass murderers, implicit murderers, and paranoid schizophrenics. The goal here is to make it harder to get to legal guns, thus increase the odds of being arrested while purchasing illegal ones.

    Thirdly, refer to the second deviation from the intended communication. That there is the goal. Not have an entire US population round of for a crazy experiment just to have a research. Who would do such a thing! Why would you bring this scene up?

    The reason I brought up research is because you asked for answers in an area that could be best researched after such a policy would first be put in place. You want more accurate numbers how more the odds would drop if fMRI is involved in background checkes, that research needs to be done after such policies - was my point. Not have a whole nation experimented upon!
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    Re: Texas Shooting Spree Leaves 2 Dead, 5 Wounded

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I don't know if you're an American or not but, we have this thing called the 4th amendment. Your Orwellian machine would likely violate that.

    How hard is it to buy a gun in Dardania? BTW
    I am a Dardanian. We have cultural codes related to guns. Even the passage of rite to have a gun makes one a real man for the true followers of the Albanian ancient code (before guns there were other weapons involved). One way to discipline your teenage son is to take away his gun. So we are sons a guns like you also.

    We do not have the 4th amendment. Interested person obtains a license to have a gun that is not difficult to get. Then you can purchase one and go practice shooting at newly build areas.

    I do not think it is Orwellian since it promotes using of guns for protection while it attempts to inhibit using of guns for murder. It is the "murder" part that I am not alright with that is all.
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    Re: Texas Shooting Spree Leaves 2 Dead, 5 Wounded

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Are you seriously proposing that a MRI should be required in order to purchase a gun? This is the most ridiculous proposal I have ever heard of for gun owners.

    Do you really expect this to happen?
    Read a few posts behind about "why" I think it would be important to use fMRI scans as background checks. Wise up, wipe your face, and get back to me when you are more serious, ok?
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    Re: Texas Shooting Spree Leaves 2 Dead, 5 Wounded

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Texas Shooting Spree Leaves 2 Dead, 5 Wounded

    its from Reuters..

    When will these terror attacks by common Americans stop?
    May 26 (Reuters) - A gunman randomly firing from his pickup truck killed one person and wounded five, including the sheriff of Concho County, Texas, on Sunday before the suspect was killed in a shootout with law enforcement, officials said.
    Those god fearing, gun toting Texans waited for law enforcement to show up and take this guy out?

    Had this happened in California, I could see having to wait, along with a diatribe or two about how liberal California needs more gun toters, but in Texas? Don't they have enough armed citizens to stop this sort of thing before it even starts?
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    Re: Texas Shooting Spree Leaves 2 Dead, 5 Wounded

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Read a few posts behind about "why" I think it would be important to use fMRI scans as background checks. Wise up, wipe your face, and get back to me when you are more serious, ok?
    This idea of yours is not only ignorant, but absolutely something that would be impossible to do. Thankfully BS like this will never be implemented. I imagine the strongest support will be from MRI manufacturers and technicians to operate the new machines. As far as widespread support among the thinking public is concerned, I doubt you will find much support there.

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    Re: Texas Shooting Spree Leaves 2 Dead, 5 Wounded

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    This idea of yours is not only ignorant, but absolutely something that would be impossible to do. Thankfully BS like this will never be implemented. I imagine the strongest support will be from MRI manufacturers and technicians to operate the new machines. As far as widespread support among the thinking public is concerned, I doubt you will find much support there.
    This is a lot better. Thanks.

    Anyway this is my position and solution for the time being regarding this issue of guns and murders that you guys suffer ever so frequently. Will be presenting this proposal a few times more when other sad incidents such as this in Texas occur.

    Sometime along the line I will probably get bored from saying it to no avail as you say. For now though it feels great to use brand new technology to try to stop murderers from doing their ill intent.
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    Re: Texas Shooting Spree Leaves 2 Dead, 5 Wounded

    Was the college a gun free zone ?

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    Re: Texas Shooting Spree Leaves 2 Dead, 5 Wounded

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    I wouldn't have fired unless the shooter was shooting at me. Otherwise there is too many unknowns to just see something happening and start shooting. As a shooter, I am responsible for every round that exits my gun. Accidentally shooting into a house is a major no no and can land a person in custody and could lead to prison.
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    Re: Texas Shooting Spree Leaves 2 Dead, 5 Wounded

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    The NAACP is a black organization

    Over half the murders committed in the United States are committed by blacks

    does that Make the NAACP a "murder organization"

    see how STUPID your point is?
    How come every thread I read you always provoke race baiting?

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    Re: Texas Shooting Spree Leaves 2 Dead, 5 Wounded

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Not entirely correct. The "millions" you speak of would be Americans who can and want to get a legal gun. The rest do not need to be screened.

    Secondly, we would not be searching for one "bad apple" (that can poison a dozen like in Texas), but for millions of: psychopaths, sociopaths, mass murderers, implicit murderers, and paranoid schizophrenics. The goal here is to make it harder to get to legal guns, thus increase the odds of being arrested while purchasing illegal ones.

    Thirdly, refer to the second deviation from the intended communication. That there is the goal. Not have an entire US population round of for a crazy experiment just to have a research. Who would do such a thing! Why would you bring this scene up?

    The reason I brought up research is because you asked for answers in an area that could be best researched after such a policy would first be put in place. You want more accurate numbers how more the odds would drop if fMRI is involved in background checkes, that research needs to be done after such policies - was my point. Not have a whole nation experimented upon!
    You clearly have your own goals. Why do you only want to "millions of: psychopaths, sociopaths, mass murderers, implicit murderers, and paranoid schizophrenics" to be screened when purchasing a gun? Plenty of serial killers, for example, have used weapons other than guns. Do you really think there are "millions" of them? Making it harder to get a legal gun, your stated objective, is strictly to increase the odds of being caught buying an illegal gun. What is the impact of the odds when that happens as you describe? The US is a country where it is a felony to lie on a gun application (I don't remember the form) and yet the government doesn't prosecute those people. Prosecuting people who self-identify on a federal form would do more to reduce gun crimes than your fMRI would.

    I truly don't think you've come up with a policy for using your instrument. You like your instrument and you want it used, but you have never expressed a scope for your additional experiments. How about we do it in your region and you can tell us how it went.

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