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    Re: Texas Shooting Spree Leaves 2 Dead, 5 Wounded

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Good analogy

    In the US, dying while shopping is the equivalent of martyring oneself for Mohammed in Iraq
    Women and children hit hardest.
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    Re: Texas Shooting Spree Leaves 2 Dead, 5 Wounded

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Please post a link to the fairy dust vendor you found.
    I think this is what he meant: Functional magnetic resonance imaging - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    In essence, a brain scan to buy a gun.

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    Re: Texas Shooting Spree Leaves 2 Dead, 5 Wounded

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Why do "Centrists" seem to drift to the Left so often?
    Centrists? are they like Independents?

    The squishy middle?

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    Re: Texas Shooting Spree Leaves 2 Dead, 5 Wounded

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    IOW, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a Bradley
    In case you wondered, it's pretty dark at 4:30 AM. I've been to Eden TX. and there not a lot going on at that time. This shooter was probably tweeking from a meth high and was pissed he couldn't find more targets. [thus driving from place to place]

    And yes if there had been a well armed citizen on the streets at that hour, they could of stopped this guy cold.

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    Re: Texas Shooting Spree Leaves 2 Dead, 5 Wounded

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I think this is what he meant: Functional magnetic resonance imaging - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    In essence, a brain scan to buy a gun.
    We might as well as go all out and require a brain scan to buy knives,drives cars,prepare food,vote...
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    Re: Texas Shooting Spree Leaves 2 Dead, 5 Wounded

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Got news for you, not everyone in Texas carries a gun with them wherever they go. In fact, probably a small percentage do.
    Too many westerns cause such a discrepancy in reality.

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    Re: Texas Shooting Spree Leaves 2 Dead, 5 Wounded

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucky View Post
    We might as well as go all out and require a brain scan to buy knives,drives cars,prepare food,vote...
    I wonder if the person who suggested that would submit?

    Personally, what's inside my head is the last thing I want revealed.

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    Re: Texas Shooting Spree Leaves 2 Dead, 5 Wounded

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    This could also have been prevented if the guy didn't have a car. I never said to stop doing the research.

    Rather than banter with words, tell us what percent of these mass killings could be prevented if an fMRI were used in background checks?
    You do realize that this requires research. Currently fMRI scans to detect personality and character disorder is not included in background checks for guns. But we have percentages killings done from them today. Hence once such a policy it is established that includes fMRI in background checks a quantitative research should conclude how much the killings have dropped.

    Lastly, the measures would only stop people with character and personality disorders from obtaining a legal gun. They could seek out the illegal market. But then they risk being captured and jailed for that.

    With the lack of such a research though I could state that such policies would only allow people with personality and character disorders whom obtained an illegal gun to continue on with their ill intend and commit murder. How much exactly such a percentage is would involve your current number of: psychopaths, sociopaths, mass murderers, implicit murderers, and paranoid schizophrenics, their average kill, and then an estimated drop from there.

    For more details apply background checks with fMRI and let us do some research to provide you with final data results. If you then do not like it you can change the policy. It is not like you shall be stuck with it for all eternity!

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Tell us why whatever percent you answer to my first question, isn't reason enough to screen everyone? Buying a car, getting on a plane, or whatever other situation.
    To the contrary I want to tell you that any drop of percent from what you have should be considered as a positive development. You make it sound like "screening everyone" is a chore. But you just enter an fMRI, hear some laud noises, and get out.

    Driving a car also requires one to have a license. Known terrorists cannot enter a plane probably, so there should be some policy about background checks for getting a plane ticket also.

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    I prefer to evaluate on a case-by-case basis whether something is for the common good or not.
    Well I do not mind your critical scrutiny. We here live by those each day. But you need to evaluate whether dropping kills from personality and character disorders is good by making it harder for them to get illegal guns? As well consider the added odds of being arrested by attempting to get illegal guns, would both contribute to common good.
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    Re: Texas Shooting Spree Leaves 2 Dead, 5 Wounded

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucky View Post
    We might as well as go all out and require a brain scan to buy knives,drives cars,prepare food,vote...
    You know it sounds funny when you say it like. And I appreciate you contributing to my humor .

    But the way I see it the brain scanning technology would be involved for all that and a lot more. If only and ONLY it was portable. That is the ultimate pragmatic fallacy. You cannot carry an fMRI with you while doing those and other things even if one wanted to.

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I wonder if the person who suggested that would submit?

    Personally, what's inside my head is the last thing I want revealed.
    If it was portable?! Why! I would never have turned the portable fMRI of mine off! Let everyone see my current brain state. The more they know the better they can estimate. As long as I see theirs I have nothing to hide nor fear.

    Besides, fMRI technology is not quite there yet at reading your mind. Findings are more strongly about emotional, and mental states, as well as in disorders. Otherwise cognitive work is mostly done in the upper most thinner layers of the brain who are way too narrow to assign a function per thought yet for most part.

    Thus no one may not know what you are thinking. But sure as heck they may know whether you: like, dislike, fear, irritate, or angers you.

    Bartender: WCH, want a beer? (looks at your brain scans). Ok, then, which will it be, a Bud or Peja? (looks again). Peja is exported beer from Dardania? No! Ok, here's a Bud. 5$ . Yes, you heard me! Now don't give me that amigdala activity BS! It is 5$ and I opened the bottle! Ok, ok. But I will put it in your tab! I see you like that you cheap bastard!
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    Re: Texas Shooting Spree Leaves 2 Dead, 5 Wounded

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    You do realize that this requires research. Currently fMRI scans to detect personality and character disorder is not included in background checks for guns. But we have percentages killings done from them today. Hence once such a policy it is established that includes fMRI in background checks a quantitative research should conclude how much the killings have dropped.

    Lastly, the measures would only stop people with character and personality disorders from obtaining a legal gun. They could seek out the illegal market. But then they risk being captured and jailed for that.

    With the lack of such a research though I could state that such policies would only allow people with personality and character disorders whom obtained an illegal gun to continue on with their ill intend and commit murder. How much exactly such a percentage is would involve your current number of: psychopaths, sociopaths, mass murderers, implicit murderers, and paranoid schizophrenics, their average kill, and then an estimated drop from there.

    For more details apply background checks with fMRI and let us do some research to provide you with final data results. If you then do not like it you can change the policy. It is not like you shall be stuck with it for all eternity!



    To the contrary I want to tell you that any drop of percent from what you have should be considered as a positive development. You make it sound like "screening everyone" is a chore. But you just enter an fMRI, hear some laud noises, and get out.

    Driving a car also requires one to have a license. Known terrorists cannot enter a plane probably, so there should be some policy about background checks for getting a plane ticket also.



    Well I do not mind your critical scrutiny. We here live by those each day. But you need to evaluate whether dropping kills from personality and character disorders is good by making it harder for them to get illegal guns? As well consider the added odds of being arrested by attempting to get illegal guns, would both contribute to common good.
    You are essentially asking everyone to be one of your guinea pigs under the hope of getting enough data to prove this technology and in the hope of finding one person who may be guilty of wanting to act as a psychopath. Is that essentially correct? If someone wants to volunteer to be examined, then that is their business. If you want to make it required upon commitment to a mental institution or a prison, I can understand that too. To screen millions of innocent people in the hopes of finding one bad one based upon unproven, yet perhaps promising technology, is a path I do not want society to take.

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