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    Re: Victims shot after drugs handed over at Tennessee pharmacy, DA says

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Big word here is if. Show me evidence where this is the case.
    You've got it bass-ackwards

    You're the one claiming that employers should allow their employees to work armed, so you're the one who has the burden to show that doing so decreases the risk of innocents being harmed

    I have not said anything about what a employer should do, so I have no obligation to post any evidence.

    No evidence has been posted either that says when people are armed there is a decreased risk that innocents will be harmed. I acknowledged that, I also stated that all we really have to go on are reports where guns helped or didn't help. To my knowledge there is no reliable study conducted that contrasts being armed with prevention of people being harmed in an armed robbery to those unarmed in similar situations. Absence of evidence is not evidence. The precedence is that people have a Constitutional right to be armed and defend themselves, to remove such ability without evidence that it is a beneficial policy is not rational.


    Seems like we have the same policy then. But as stated, there isn't facts that would support the notion that being armed, in the event of an armed robbery, results in more innocent people being harmed or in more deaths. In principal people should be allowed to defend themselves from robbers, especially if they are armed. It's wrong to subjugate people to the mercy of a robber and hope that they choose to not harm anyone if they get what they want. Nothing emotional about that.
    No, we don't have the same position. You assume that an owner needs to show evidence that allowing employees to carry increases risk in order to forbid the practice. My position is that since there is no evidence either way, either policy (allowing or forbidding carry while working) is equally justifiable.

    Businesses are not run to allow their workers to exercise their rights. They are run to make a profit. Business owners set rules based on what they feel will further their goal of earning a profit,. Those business policies are not "subjugation". It's nonsensical hyperbole to claim it is "subjugation"
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    Re: Victims shot after drugs handed over at Tennessee pharmacy, DA says

    What if the pharmacist had a gun and used it. Might have been charged with murder like this pharmacist.

    Oklahoma Pharmacist and Dead Robber's Accomplices Get Life in Prison - ABC News
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    Re: Victims shot after drugs handed over at Tennessee pharmacy, DA says

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You're the one who made a claim about the terms
    No i didn't



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    Victims shot after drugs handed over at Tennessee pharmacy, DA says

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    What if the pharmacist had a gun and used it. Might have been charged with murder like this pharmacist.

    Oklahoma Pharmacist and Dead Robber's Accomplices Get Life in Prison - ABC News
    World of difference between a pharmacist using a firearm in self defense and a pharmacist shooting a guy (knocking him unconscious), chasing his accomplices out of the building, returning indoors and retrieving a second gun and then pumping 5 shots into an unconscious individual.

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    Re: Victims shot after drugs handed over at Tennessee pharmacy, DA says

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    World of difference between a pharmacist using a firearm in self defense and a pharmacist shooting a guy (knocking him unconscious), chasing his accomplices out of the building, returning indoors and retrieving a second gun and then pumping 5 shots into an unconscious individual.

    "Box told ABC News that his client saw Parker still moving and believed he was still a threat."

    Shouldn't he be able to stand his ground?
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    Victims shot after drugs handed over at Tennessee pharmacy, DA says

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    "Box told ABC News that his client saw Parker still moving and believed he was still a threat."

    Shouldn't he be able to stand his ground?
    you bet. Sure.

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    Re: Victims shot after drugs handed over at Tennessee pharmacy, DA says

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    you bet. Sure.
    so then the second five shots was self defense.
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    Victims shot after drugs handed over at Tennessee pharmacy, DA says

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    so then the second five shots was self defense.
    You bet. Sure.

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    Re: Victims shot after drugs handed over at Tennessee pharmacy, DA says

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You bet. Sure.
    Glad we agree.
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    Victims shot after drugs handed over at Tennessee pharmacy, DA says

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Glad we agree.
    You bet. Sure.

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