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    Re: Victims shot after drugs handed over at Tennessee pharmacy, DA says

    Bean Station is not far from me, I heard about this earlier. What a horrifying situation.

    I don't know what the policies are regarding carrying in a pharmacy, but most businesses don't allow employees to carry during work hours. I know ours doesn't, except for office personnel.

    The perp being an ex-LEO makes it all that much worse, especially killing them after they complied with his demands. Not too long ago, about 6 weeks ago?, one of our stores was robbed at gun point, the Manager complied and the thief had her laying on the floor face down. She said all she could do was pray that he didn't shoot her anyway. He didn't fortunately. (he was caught later after robbing another store of the same type)
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    Re: Victims shot after drugs handed over at Tennessee pharmacy, DA says

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    What fallacy is that? What armed person has ever considered themselves invincible?

    You're skewing the response-
    Did you read Digsbe's comments? It is a refrain used at every shooting...if only a CCW had been there.... but the truth is the BEST one can hope for is perhaps hitting one or two of them, but ONLY if you can present before they do, and you can bet these guys would not have just run away... they came to kill.

    He would have been correct to say something like perhaps they could have tried to defend themselves.

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    Re: Victims shot after drugs handed over at Tennessee pharmacy, DA says

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Just to be clear, your position is that it's better to put the lives of innocent people at great risk by prohibiting firearms and if a few innocent folks get killed then that's just the way it has to be to insure that only criminals can have firearms....is that about right?
    LMAO... and I even predicted someone would attempt to twist what I said to be the above...

    You ignored what I said to drag out your favorite dead horse to beat...

    Just to be clear, quote where I said ANYTHING like that!

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    Re: Victims shot after drugs handed over at Tennessee pharmacy, DA says

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    You're skewing the response-
    Did you read Digsbe's comments? It is a refrain used at every shooting...if only a CCW had been there.... but the truth is the BEST one can hope for is perhaps hitting one or two of them, but ONLY if you can present before they do, and you can bet these guys would not have just run away... they came to kill.

    He would have been correct to say something like perhaps they could have tried to defend themselves.
    When you claim that something is a fallacy, you should be prepared to cite the name of this formal fallacy and explain how it is in fact said fallacy.
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    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: Victims shot after drugs handed over at Tennessee pharmacy, DA says

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post

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    This really hits me hard. In all pharmacies I've worked for it was against company policy to bring a weapon to work for the purpose of self defense. There were no security guards and in the event of a robbery we were instructed to give robbers whatever they want and avoid all eye contact and hope that the robber chooses not to kill anyone and that compliance would most likely result in them leaving with stolen medications and no human lives being harmed.

    The pharmacist and technicians were murdered execution style. They gave into his demands and were told to kneel down facing against the wall and were then shot and killed. Personally, had the pharmacist owned a gun or the staff had their own they could have defended themselves instead of being murdered unarmed execution style. This is a very very sad tragedy.
    when you get out of school you may need to open your own pharmacy which tolerates a ccw practice
    not sure the outcome would be any different, but you would at least be able to take someone with you - hopefully not an innocent customer

    or we could alternatively work to rid all handguns from the streets
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    Re: Victims shot after drugs handed over at Tennessee pharmacy, DA says

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post

    Victims shot after drugs handed over at Tennessee pharmacy, DA says | Fox News

    This really hits me hard. In all pharmacies I've worked for it was against company policy to bring a weapon to work for the purpose of self defense. There were no security guards and in the event of a robbery we were instructed to give robbers whatever they want and avoid all eye contact and hope that the robber chooses not to kill anyone and that compliance would most likely result in them leaving with stolen medications and no human lives being harmed.

    The pharmacist and technicians were murdered execution style. They gave into his demands and were told to kneel down facing against the wall and were then shot and killed. Personally, had the pharmacist owned a gun or the staff had their own they could have defended themselves instead of being murdered unarmed execution style. This is a very very sad tragedy.
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    Re: Victims shot after drugs handed over at Tennessee pharmacy, DA says

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    When you claim that something is a fallacy, you should be prepared to cite the name of this formal fallacy and explain how it is in fact said fallacy.
    Ummm who are you again? I didn't know the forum had some warped protocol police...

    I said it the way 'I' wanted to, if you don't like it.....

    Tuff titty...

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    Re: Victims shot after drugs handed over at Tennessee pharmacy, DA says

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Ummm who are you again?
    A person educated in logic who knows when someone is claiming "fallacy" where there is none.

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    I didn't know the forum had some warped protocol police...
    I don't need to be the weather man to tell you its raining, nor do I need authority to point out when you're making up logical fallacies.

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    I said it the way 'I' wanted to, if you don't like it.....

    Tuff titty...
    A compelling argument, make up all the fallacies you want no one will take issue I'm sure.

    Debate isn't a matter of liking an argument you ignoramus. Nor are the rules of logic, or having to source your claims, or back them up. If you claim I am guilty of an non-sequitur, but refuse to explain how my logic doesn't follow, what use is your claim?

    I claim you're guilty of a fallacy! What fallacy? Who are you to ask?

    I claim you're born of incest, to suggest otherwise is a new fallacy I made up, problem? Because you seem to be under the impression that anyone can claim anything, and who the **** is anyone else to suggest otherwise? "Who are you again?" As if the validity of your stupid argument depended on the notoriety of its critics What utter tripe, not quite educated are you?
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    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: Victims shot after drugs handed over at Tennessee pharmacy, DA says

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I don't know what standard practice is in America, but here in Toronto I know that pharmacies have signs out front that indicate they do not keep certain drugs, like oxycodone, on the premises and you have to bring in your prescription and the drugs will be either delivered to your home or they will be delivered to the pharmacy later and you'll have to go back and pick them up. Having such drugs on the premises is like advertising you have crack or heroin or whatever and inviting a robbery and like in this case, worse.
    I think that is the way pharmacies are going to have to go in this country.

    Having armed pharmacist is not a bad idea but it won't deter a drug addict. Even with armed guards banks still get robbed.

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    Re: Victims shot after drugs handed over at Tennessee pharmacy, DA says

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    when you get out of school you may need to open your own pharmacy which tolerates a ccw practice
    not sure the outcome would be any different, but you would at least be able to take someone with you - hopefully not an innocent customer

    or we could alternatively work to rid all handguns from the streets
    allowing people to defend themselves with a firearm is reasonable and doable... getting all handguns off the street is the stuff of fantasies.

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