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    Re: Wife of truck driver in bridge collapse says husband has 'impeccable' record

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    I know in the refinery ive seen safety watches take the burn when someone else was definately responsable. They pull a random guy out of the crowd and say, "Tag you are safety watch!" Then a guy using a scissor lift or manbasket proceedes to do whatever the hell he wants with it and never listen to the safety. Instead of shutting the job down and creating a HUGE stink and wasting man hours for maybe hundreds of people they just go with it. Operator then recklessly pops a high pressure steam pipe (lucky its not boiling hot crude or something) and points his finger at the safety guy. Safety guy tells the truth and says "He wouldnt listen to me and was doing whatever he wanted" and the corporate slavedogs who make decisions locally use that as the final and only important cause.

    Thats just a personal story of my roommate who was in the same industry as me though and 1 of the reasons why he got fired from 1 company we both worked for.

    They also love to roll **** downhill to preserve company resource. AKA if a freshly hired assistant gets fired for doing a crappy safety job then the higher paid technician who pulls the company much, much more money then the company loses less.

    At least the story makes more sense going southbound.

    Dude could have always just stopped though if it was a right of way problem. When cars go into a 1 car each way tunnel they dont rush in at the last second. You stop traffic if you have to and never pass or even think about right of way issues. 1 lane dedicated to this guy is essentially a tunnel. He should have been in the proper lane a mile ahead of time at least.
    Wow that's exactly how it works in the military, too. PVT Snuffy is randomly selected to be the fall guy for the Sergeant should anything go wrong. A whipping boy.

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    Re: Wife of truck driver in bridge collapse says husband has 'impeccable' record

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    If the permit issuer told him "You must be in this lane to cross" and he wasnt then its pretty much 100% the drivers fault. If the permit issuer was lazy and assumed the driver would know, never telling him then it would be the permit issuers fault.

    95% of my experiences with permit issuers is you put the paper in their face and say "Im be doing *this*" and they pretend to scan down the whole thing and look for any personal messages then sign it and give you an incredulous look if you dont get out of their face so they can go back to playing facebook games.
    I don't see how any part of the permit or permitting process could ever place responsibility of bridge maintenance on the driver.

    Damit Jim I'm a truck driver not a Structural Engineer!

    That kinda makes me want to become a Civil Engineer, though. If anything ever goes wrong and I totally drop the ball on maintaining any structure for years and years, I can just blame a trucker.

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    Re: Wife of truck driver in bridge collapse says husband has 'impeccable' record

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I don't see how any part of the permit or permitting process could ever place responsibility of bridge maintenance on the driver.

    Damit Jim I'm a truck driver not a Structural Engineer!

    That kinda makes me want to become a Civil Engineer, though. If anything ever goes wrong and I totally drop the ball on maintaining any structure for years and years, I can just blame a trucker.
    It wasnt maintenance it was faulty design.
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    Re: Wife of truck driver in bridge collapse says husband has 'impeccable' record

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    It wasnt maintenance it was faulty design.
    Oh well that's certainly the trucker's fault. He should have known back in the 50s that there was a problem and forced them to make a change, even if he was still in diapers and only spoke 3 words that's no excuse!

    We need to ban abortion and give Zygotes rights because a good number of them are going to grow up to be truck drivers and will be held responsible for how a bridge is designed today. We need to make sure all pregnant women view every single blue print for every single bridge and monitor the fetus for it's input.
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    Re: Wife of truck driver in bridge collapse says husband has 'impeccable' record

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Oh well that's certainly the trucker's fault. He should have known back in the 50s that there was a problem and forced them to make a change, even if he was still in diapers and only spoke 3 words that's no excuse!
    If you know you have to drive into a 1 lane tunnel youd get into that lane plenty well in time wouldnt you? Its not like he was some random dude driving a car that just accidentally hit some side beam. He was a guy that needed a permit for clearance and wasnt in the rigth lane until he took a whole bridge section out. I doubt he even knew what as going on until he heard the SCREEEEEECH across half the bridge section. If he didnt have the hindsight to get into the 1 correct line at least a mile ahead of time chances are it was a herp derp moment.

    Its the fault of the driver for not being in the correct place and the permit issuer for even taking the chance on this bridge.
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    Re: Wife of truck driver in bridge collapse says husband has 'impeccable' record

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    If you know you have to drive into a 1 lane tunnel youd get into that lane plenty well in time wouldnt you?
    I fault the driver for striking the tunnel.

    I do not fault the driver when the tunnel then collapses. I fault the city for not properly maintaining the tunnel.

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    Re: Wife of truck driver in bridge collapse says husband has 'impeccable' record

    This thread reminds me of this gif:


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    Re: Wife of truck driver in bridge collapse says husband has 'impeccable' record

    Pretty much every airplane crash in the US gets a Pilot Error thrown in----Well this crash wouldn't have happened if the Captain had maintained control of his aircraft after both wings fell off and a meteor took off his tail section. It was partially his fault 265 people died---Same thing is going on here.......

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    Re: Wife of truck driver in bridge collapse says husband has 'impeccable' record

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Not saying you're wrong, but I didn't see that part....I thought it was near the end of the span also...You could be right though...Still doesn't make you correct that it is 100% the drivers fault.
    I never said others didn't contribute to the problem. If the lead car made a mistake, it is still the truck driver responsibility in the end. That's why I asked questions like "if the lead car drives off a cliff, is the truck suppose to follow?"

    The confusion of the bridge may be that there was some remark that the driver made it across before it collapsed. He made it across the span before it collapsed. Not the bridge. It's easy to tell by the images.

    See this image:



    Look at any map and you'll see those other two bridges are to the east of this one. All reports have the drive going south.
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    Re: Wife of truck driver in bridge collapse says husband has 'impeccable' record

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    A trucker cannot be responsible for the condition of a bridge, that it falls when struck.
    Really?

    If the bridge was solid enough not to give with the momentum of the drivers solid steel load, what would have happened then?

    How much heavier and costly would it have meen?

    Would it need to be made of unobtanium?

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