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    Re: Wife of truck driver in bridge collapse says husband has 'impeccable' record

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    There was another commercial truck in that lane. But still, why didn't the pilot car radio back that there wasn't sufficient clearance?
    So why didn't he change lanes well in advance of the bridge?

    Looks like a complete rookie mistake. Why are you defending such mistakes?

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    Re: Wife of truck driver in bridge collapse says husband has 'impeccable' record

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I also wonder if there's a different tailor that could have been used.



    The load is long, would have required a special trailer to decrease the height.

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    Re: Wife of truck driver in bridge collapse says husband has 'impeccable' record

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    So why didn't he change lanes well in advance of the bridge?
    Another good question. I suspect the driver may have feared making contact with the divider, or the load hanging over the divider and making contact with oncoming traffic in the next lane. Maybe this driver isn't familiar with the area and that's why he hired a local pilot car driver. I don't know how high the bottom of the load itself was from the ground so I cannot hazard a guess.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Looks like a complete rookie mistake.
    I don't know many 'rookies' in any trade who have 20 years of experience and multiple safety awards. I don't think we can attribute this to inexperience.

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    Why are you defending such mistakes?
    Because the best way to prove if something is true, is to try and disprove it.

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    Re: Wife of truck driver in bridge collapse says husband has 'impeccable' record

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    There was another commercial truck in that lane. But still, why didn't the pilot car radio back that there wasn't sufficient clearance?
    Which makes the pilot car drive just as responsible as the CMV operator.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Wife of truck driver in bridge collapse says husband has 'impeccable' record

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Another good question. I suspect the driver may have feared making contact with the divider, or the load hanging over the divider and making contact with oncoming traffic in the next lane. Maybe this driver isn't familiar with the area and that's why he hired a local pilot car driver. I don't know how high the bottom of the load itself was from the ground so I cannot hazard a guess.


    I don't know many 'rookies' in any trade who have 20 years of experience and multiple safety awards. I don't think we can attribute this to inexperience.


    Because the best way to prove if something is true, is to try and disprove it.
    Depends on how many permit loads this driver has hauled. I know drivers that have never pulled anything but dry vans. They don't have a clue about the hazards of hauling a permit load and over-height loads are particularly tricky.

    If this was a permitted load, it's ultimately the fault of the state permit office, but you'll never see the state admit to that.

    Example: I was pulling a cement pump from Tulsa, OK to Houston, Tx. I was 13-6 wide and 15-1 tall. When I was proceeding on my state assigned permit route, in Sallisaw, OK, there was a bridge over the road with only 13-9 of clearance.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Wife of truck driver in bridge collapse says husband has 'impeccable' record

    We have a veteran trucker with a very good safety record who hires a local pilot car driver to guide him down the rout the State of Washington's DOT recommended when the permit was approved. While in rout, the truck followed the pilot car and proceeded across the bridge since the pilot car did not radio back a clearance problem.

    As to the collision: We still haven't ruled out an error on the pilot car's driver, an equipment malfunction on the pilot car, or a structural abnormality in the bridge.

    As to the collapse, even if this were 100% driver error, this kind of collision should not have caused a section of the bridge to completely fail. This collision should have resulted in damage fees assessed and the driver's record smeared, but not a structural collaps.

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    Re: Wife of truck driver in bridge collapse says husband has 'impeccable' record

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Well, in this case the section of bridge did come down. Does that tell you anything?

    A lot of us would like to think a lot of things, but sometimes reality limits our speculation.




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    it tells me we need to fix our bridges before the fall ...

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    Re: Wife of truck driver in bridge collapse says husband has 'impeccable' record

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It could be a design flaw. Too bad the gubmint engineers are untouchable.

    I knew it had to be the government, and probably only under Obama ... am I right?

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    Re: Wife of truck driver in bridge collapse says husband has 'impeccable' record

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    They never drove with such loads when the bridge design was conceived before '1955. The opening of the bridge was a known factor in all this, unless the trucking company didn't check...
    O.K., but still, shouldn't it take more than that unless the bridge needed fixing to begin with?

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    Re: Wife of truck driver in bridge collapse says husband has 'impeccable' record

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Depends on how many permit loads this driver has hauled. I know drivers that have never pulled anything but dry vans. They don't have a clue about the hazards of hauling a permit load and over-height loads are particularly tricky.

    If this was a permitted load, it's ultimately the fault of the state permit office, but you'll never see the state admit to that.

    Example: I was pulling a cement pump from Tulsa, OK to Houston, Tx. I was 13-6 wide and 15-1 tall. When I was proceeding on my state assigned permit route, in Sallisaw, OK, there was a bridge over the road with only 13-9 of clearance.
    How can an operator find the clearance of every bridge along a rout before actually encountering that bridge? Is there any kind of national bridge registery that could be plugged into, say, google maps?

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