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    Re: NBC: Holder OK'd Search Warrant For Fox News Reporter's Private Emails, Official

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Not as superficial as grasping for straws because you hope something can be pinned on the president.
    The thing here is that these scandals aren't straws; they're scandals, and they're real. And are being acknowledged not just by those who don't admire the President. As painful as this may be for you, the reality is that there are serious problems in the Obama Admin, and one of them centers around the IRS. Denying this reality does no good.

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    Re: NBC: Holder OK'd Search Warrant For Fox News Reporter's Private Emails, Official

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    At least they got the warrants so I guess we are progressing. Strange the press was never outraged when Bush was spying on everybody without even bothering with the warrants. Chickens, welcome home to the roost.
    That isn't also going on now?

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    Re: NBC: Holder OK'd Search Warrant For Fox News Reporter's Private Emails, Official

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Not as superficial as grasping for straws because you hope something can be pinned on the president.
    I very much prefer Obama remain in office for his entire 2nd term. "Pinning" anything on the president is not the objective here.

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    Re: NBC: Holder OK'd Search Warrant For Fox News Reporter's Private Emails, Official

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    And I shoukd just take your word for it?
    No you should look it up, or just pay attention. Ask the unnamed government source where most leaks come from.
    There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences.
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    Re: NBC: Holder OK'd Search Warrant For Fox News Reporter's Private Emails, Official

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    At least they got the warrants so I guess we are progressing. Strange the press was never outraged when Bush was spying on everybody without even bothering with the warrants. Chickens, welcome home to the roost.
    they trumped up a criminal charge so to get that warrant.
    so which is worse wire tapping without a warrant or trumping up a criminal charge to illegally get the warrant?

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    Re: NBC: Holder OK'd Search Warrant For Fox News Reporter's Private Emails, Official

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    That isn't also going on now?
    apparently we have no idea what is going on now since every day it is something new.

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    Re: NBC: Holder OK'd Search Warrant For Fox News Reporter's Private Emails, Official

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    You're right about everything. Disagreement regarding policies and ideology equals hate, and I see a little balloon hovering over my head from the SPLC as we speak.
    Whatever...

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    Re: NBC: Holder OK'd Search Warrant For Fox News Reporter's Private Emails, Official

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Whatever...
    I think it's an accurate summary of your statement. You are free to disagree, but "whatever" isn't a substantive response containing any element at all supporting your statement.

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    Re: NBC: Holder OK'd Search Warrant For Fox News Reporter's Private Emails, Official

    sunday nyt:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/27/bu...e-records.html

    News Corporation said on Sunday that it had no record of being notified by the Justice Department nearly three years ago of a subpoena for the telephone records of a reporter at its Fox News cable channel.

    The company’s chief legal counsel at the time also said that he had never seen material from the government related to the subpoena.

    The Justice Department has signaled that it notified News Corporation on Aug. 27, 2010, that it had seized the phone records of a Fox News reporter — who turned out to be the Washington correspondent James Rosen — after one of his articles had included details of a secret United States report on North Korea.

    Fox News has denied that it knew about the subpoena, while Justice Department officials have said they sent notification 90 days after obtaining the records.

    A law enforcement official said on Sunday that in the investigation that led to the indictment of Mr. Kim, “the government issued subpoenas for toll records for five phone numbers associated with the media.” This person, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, added, “Consistent with Department of Justice policies and procedures, the government provided notification of those subpoenas nearly three years ago by certified mail, facsimile and e-mail.”

    A Fox News executive said the channel had never heard of the Justice Department investigation and had no knowledge of New Corporation ever being notified. A News Corporation spokesman said Sunday that the company was looking into the matter of notification. “While we don’t take issue with the D.O.J.’s account that they sent a notice to News Corp., we do not have a record of ever having received it,” Nathaniel Brown, the spokesman, said.

    Lawrence A. Jacobs, who was News Corporation’s chief legal officer until he left in June 2011, said he never saw a notification about the phone records.

    “I would have remembered getting a fax from the Justice Department,” Mr. Jacobs said in an interview Sunday. “These are not the kinds of things that happen every day.”

    He added, “The first thing I would’ve done would be to call Roger Ailes.”

    News Corporation said it had conducted a thorough search of its legal records, including, Mr. Jacobs said, a scan of his e-mails and other relevant materials, and has found nothing related to the investigation. “The inference that I sat on this and didn’t share it with Roger couldn’t be further from the truth,” Mr. Jacobs said.

    The investigation into Mr. Rosen’s phone records and personal e-mail became public only after The Associated Press said two weeks ago that the government had subpoenaed telephone records in a different leak investigation.
    meanwhile, the new yorker's ryan lizza reported friday that "the obama administration fought to keep a search warrant for james rosen's private email account secret"

    How Prosecutors Fought to Keep Rosen's Warrant Secret : The New Yorker

    someone's not telling the truth

    why did eric holder testify may 17 before house judiciary, "when it comes to potential prosecution of the press, that is not something i've ever been involved in, heard of, or would think would be a wise policy"

    Eric Holder Lied Under Oath To Congress - YouTube

    who's lying?

    stay tuned
    Last edited by The Prof; 05-27-13 at 03:19 PM.

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    Re: NBC: Holder OK'd Search Warrant For Fox News Reporter's Private Emails, Official

    from the new yorker:

    The new documents show that two judges separately declared that the Justice Department was required to notify Rosen of the search warrant, even if the notification came after a delay. Otherwise: “The subscriber therefore will never know, by being provided a copy of the warrant, for example, that the government secured a warrant and searched the contents of her e-mail account,” Judge John M. Facciola wrote in an opinion rejecting the Obama Administration’s argument.

    [Ronald C Machen, the US Attorney prosecuting Kim] appealed that decision, and in September, 2010, Royce C. Lamberth, the chief judge in the Federal District Court for the District of Columbia, granted Machen’s request to overturn the order of the two judges.
    judge shopping, anyone?

    lamberth, by the way, is the dc district judge who last week apologized for failing to unseal the warrant in question until wapo dug it out of him ,even tho his superior court ordered him to do so 18 months prior

    Judge Apologizes for Lag in Unsealing Documents - ABC News

    transparency?

    coverup?

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