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    Re: NBC: Holder OK'd Search Warrant For Fox News Reporter's Private Emails, Official

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    If you really knew what the Gestapo were like you wouldn't make the comparison. The worst we can come up with in our government is a kindergardner compared to Gestapo. Get real. You really think the Gestapo would even bother with a warrant?
    An illegal warrant is the same as none at all. Only the power of office allows that to happen. The abuse is the same whether done on a small scale or a grand one.

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    Re: NBC: Holder OK'd Search Warrant For Fox News Reporter's Private Emails, Official

    no tolerance for leakers
    june, 2012: Obama only goes after leaks that don't benefit him - CBS News

    In May 2011 the Pentagon declared that another country's cyber-attacks -- computer sabotage, against the U.S. -- could be considered an "act of war." Then, one morning in 2012 readers of the New York Times woke up to headlines announcing that the Stuxnet worm had been dispatched into Iran's nuclear facilities to shut down its computer-controlled centrifuges (essential to nuclear fuel processing) by order of Obama and executed by the US and Israel. The info had been leaked to the paper by anonymous "high ranking officials." In other words, the speculation about Stuxnet was at an end. It was an act of war ordered by the president alone.

    Similarly, after years of now-you-see-it-now-you-don't stories about drone attacks across the Greater Middle East launched "presumably" by the U.S., the Times (again) carried a remarkable story not only confirming the drone killings -- a technology that had morphed into a policy -- but noting that Obama himself was the Great Bombardier. He had, the newspaper reported, designated himself the final decision-maker on an eyes-only "kill list" of human beings the United States wanted to destroy. It was, in short, the ultimate no-fly list. Clearly, this, too, had previously been classified top-secret material, and yet its disclosure was attributed directly to White House sources.

    The high-level leaks on Stuxnet and the kill list, which have finally created such a fuss, actually follow no less self-serving leaked details from last year's bin Laden raid in Pakistan. A flurry of White House officials vied with each other then to expose ever more examples of Obama's commander-in-chief role in the operation, to the point where Seal Team 6 seemed almost irrelevant in the face of the president's personal actions. There were also "high five" congratulatory leaks over the latest failed underwear bomber from Yemen.
    it got so bad after the ubl assassination that then defense secretary robert gates offered some unsolicited advice to nsc adviser at the time tom donilon (concerning big mouth brennan's habitual blabbing)

    “‘i have a new strategic communications approach to recommend, shut the f*** up"

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...s-stfu-policy/

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Vast majority? I don't think so.
    Sure they are.
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    nyt yesterday, "press sees chilling effect in justice dept inquiries:"

    President Obama’s conciliatory gesture toward the press this week — a review of Justice Department investigations involving journalists — struck some national security reporters as closing the door after the sources have already bolted.

    In announcing the review in his speech on Thursday, the president said he was troubled that recent investigations, which involved the extensive tracking of a Fox News reporter, James Rosen, and the seizing of phone records at The Associated Press, “may chill the investigative journalism that holds government accountable.”

    Journalists say that chill has already set in. Jeremy Scahill, who writes about national security for The Nation, said that some sources who used to agree to encrypted chats and off-the-record conversations have recently stopped feeling comfortable with these terms.

    “At times it seems that being a Luddite may be the safest way to do serious national security reporting in a climate where there appears to be an intensifying war on serious journalism,” Mr. Scahill wrote in an e-mail.

    Noah Shachtman, editor of Wired.com’s Danger Room blog, said that sources had told him to stay away in the recent climate of leak prosecutions.

    “There’s one source I have to run into ‘by accident’ at some public function who before I could just contact directly,” Mr. Shachtman said.

    James Bamford, author of the 1983 best seller “The Puzzle Palace” about the National Security Agency, said these latest leak cases make it increasingly difficult to establish new source relationships and that affects his reporting over all.

    “It’s important to get this information out there that doesn’t come through a press release, through the front door of the White House or the Pentagon,” Mr. Bamford said. “Far more information comes through a side door or a back door.”

    Many reporters found themselves spooked by the extent of the government’s investigation of Mr. Rosen, Fox News’s chief Washington correspondent. The affidavit, a request for e-mails from the Federal Bureau of Investigation, provided minute-by-minute details about what time both men came and left the State Department and the length of their phone conversations down to the second and also took the unusual step of labeling the reporter a potential “co-conspirator” in the leak of classified information about North Korea’s nuclear program.

    Josh Meyer, director of education and outreach at the Medill National Security Journalism Initiative at Northwestern University and a writer for Quartz, said that in the 30 years he has lived on and off in Washington, he has never found journalists to be so skittish about being under the government’s watchful eye.

    “It’s so bad that there’s a gallows humor that has sort of emerged out of this,” Mr. Meyer said. “You see journalists at parties, and you joke about ‘How is the investigation going?’ ”People just assume they’re being investigated, and it’s not a good feeling.”

    He said that he was “highly skeptical” of President Obama’s announcement. “One would think he would have done that months or years ago when these investigations were authorized.

    In his speech, President Obama said that as part of its review the Justice Department would “convene a group of media organizations to hear their concerns.” Bruce D. Brown, the executive director of the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press, called the announcement “a welcome development,” but he remained cautious about what might actually result from these talks.

    “We would want to come out of any such dialogue with an acknowledgment from the government that a reporter does not commit a crime when asking for information,” he said. “The second objective would be that the government honor its duties to notify the news media when it seeks journalists’ records. That will give the news media the proper opportunity to challenge those requests in court.”
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/25/us...anted=all&_r=0

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    Re: NBC: Holder OK'd Search Warrant For Fox News Reporter's Private Emails, Official

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    At least they got the warrants so I guess we are progressing. Strange the press was never outraged when Bush was spying on everybody without even bothering with the warrants. Chickens, welcome home to the roost.
    But, did they have sufficient probable cause? Without that, the warrants are illegal.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: NBC: Holder OK'd Search Warrant For Fox News Reporter's Private Emails, Official

    How has this dude not been canned yet?! I was talking to my Commanding Officer yesterday about this stuff. Only so much can happen under a persons charge before they are held accountable for it. Heck, we just had the USMC Officer Candidate School commander relieved because he had a couple of sexual assaults occur while he was in command. As if he could actually do something about that. Now, we've got this yahoo with Fast and Furious, the issues with the AP, now with Fox. How is he not gone yet?
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    Re: NBC: Holder OK'd Search Warrant For Fox News Reporter's Private Emails, Official

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    How has this dude not been canned yet?! I was talking to my Commanding Officer yesterday about this stuff. Only so much can happen under a persons charge before they are held accountable for it. Heck, we just had the USMC Officer Candidate School commander relieved because he had a couple of sexual assaults occur while he was in command. As if he could actually do something about that. Now, we've got this yahoo with Fast and Furious, the issues with the AP, now with Fox. How is he not gone yet?
    1) He's black

    2) It would look bad on The One

    3) He's black

    If he was a Conservative, the Libbos would be marching in the streets, but not since he's a black Libbo and Obama's boy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: NBC: Holder OK'd Search Warrant For Fox News Reporter's Private Emails, Official

    a week ago last friday, your arrogant, ignorant ag PERJURED himself in testimony before congress

    Eric Holder Lied Under Oath To Congress - YouTube

    "with regard to potential prosecutions of the press for the disclosure of material, that is not something that i've ever been involved in, heard of, or would think would be a wise policy, in fact my view is quite the opposite"

    do you think obama is best served by keeping this guy around?

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    Re: NBC: Holder OK'd Search Warrant For Fox News Reporter's Private Emails, Official

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    So, I understand the DOJ will be investigating the AG. What a joke, Eric Holder investigating Eric Holder. The president asked him to investigate himself. How's that work. We need an independent investigator.
    It sounded good in his speech and that is all that really matters.

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    Re: NBC: Holder OK'd Search Warrant For Fox News Reporter's Private Emails, Official

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Newsflash! It's usually someone in the press that has no problem releasing classified info for a story. Leaks get good people killed. No sympathy for leakers or someone in the media that facilitates leaks. I don't care who they work for whether it be the FAUX network, CNN, or what have you.
    In this case the sotry was North Korea reacting to santions. Now everybody knows North Korea will react whenever there are sanctions or anything else, so it was no secret nor classified.

    Who was going to die, in this case, when the information was reported?

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