And yeah Obama can torch any Arab, Muslim, Pakistani, Afghan, Yemeni peoples with airstrikes or mercenary bombers, and machine guns or US soldiers and the Elitist Media doesn't say jack squat being the govmnt lackys they normally are. Oh, but SPY ON THEM, not just us "commoners," and then, (only then) its a high crime or unacceptable.
"The press is the hired agent of a moneyed system, set up for no other reason than to tell us lies where their interests are concerned." ó Henry Adams
from the new yorker link above (thanks to the poster for providing it):
indeed, dc district judge lamberth apologized this week for failing to unseal the warrant for 18 months after his superior directed him to do so (link in the op)The Obama Administration fought to keep a search warrant for James Rosen’s private e-mail account secret, arguing to a federal judge that the government might need to monitor the account for a lengthy period of time.
The new details are revealed in a court filing detailing a back and forth between the Justice Department and the federal judges who oversaw the request to search a Gmail account belonging to Rosen, a reporter for Fox News. A 2009 article Rosen had written about North Korea sparked an investigation; Ronald C. Machen, Jr., the U.S. Attorney who is prosecuting Stephen Jin-Woo Kim, a former State Department adviser who allegedly leaked classified information to Rosen, insisted that the reporter should not be notified of the search and seizure of his e-mails, even after a lengthy delay.
Machen insisted the investigation would be compromised if Rosen was informed of the warrant, and also asked the court to order Google not to notify Rosen that the company had handed over Rosen’s e-mails to the government. Rosen, according to recent reports, did not learn that the government seized his e-mail records until it was reported in the Washington Post last week.
According to recently unsealed documents in the case, the Obama Justice Department sought an extensive amount of information from Rosen’s e-mail account. In addition to Rosen’s correspondence with Kim, the government wanted to know about Rosen’s contacts with other government officials, including “records or information relating to the Author’s communication with any other source or potential source of the information disclosed in the Article.”
The new documents show that two judges separately declared that the Justice Department was required to notify Rosen of the search warrant, even if the notification came after a delay. Otherwise: “The subscriber therefore will never know, by being provided a copy of the warrant, for example, that the government secured a warrant and searched the contents of [his or] her e-mail account,” Judge John M. Facciola wrote in an opinion rejecting the Obama Administration’s argument.
Machen appealed that decision, and in September, 2010, Royce C. Lamberth, the chief judge in the Federal District Court for the District of Columbia, granted Machen’s request to overturn the order of the two judges.
why so much secrecy, why so much coverup?
Sorry having been in the military I have no tolerance for leakers and the press that run with the leaks. None.
My dad felt the same way when he was in Vietnam as a Green Beret. He said they would compromise a mission in heartbeat if it gave them a story.
FOX is a joke for news. It's a tabloid network that spews out whatever their viewers want to hear. It's obvious that's all you listen to.
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I am all for calling it wrong, but because of things like the patriot act it may be completely within the realm of legal powers given to the executive branch. If it is legal for national security reasons it is not wrong under the law. Which means you are pretty much screwed on impeachment unless they screw up someplace else. Not to mention removing Obama from power does not remove the powers granted to the executive to do this sort of thing. I would love to hear from the republicans that it is time to kill the patriot act and any other act or amendment that would allow for this sort of abuse. If you want to see if you can nail Obama because he did this i would even see that as a worthwhile persuit even though I do not think it will get anywhere because it was probably within the powers granted to the executive under these rights eroding acts. But let us do that afterwards. get the patriot act and any others out of the way while we have support and then hammer obama. We cannot trust any executive appointee or elected officials to act within those powers without crossing the line. I would not give any democrat or republicans such powers, they gave it to themselves and we should all be threatening to find new representatives within our respective parties if they do not remove those things immediately. Expecting people to switch parties because the other party would never do anything like this even when the power is granted to them is downright stupid and crazy. I am sorry if this offends, but if you think your party is an alternative to this sort of behavior you are a gullible moron who is too stupid to be allowed to vote or even tie their own shoes without supervision. That is why i would not ask anyone to actually switch parties because it would never solve the problem.
Also, do not think it is not your state reps that are involved in this. Your state needs to send a message to it's people that they will remove these things or they will not make their primaries. You cannot point to other states and wait for other people to do what you should be doing. You need to threaten the people you vote for and support with replacement if you truly care about these sorts of abuses because no one else can do it. Even if you like everything else they do, and even if you would never actually vote for someone else, you need to make the threat or else they will never remove these power and your rights will never be protected from these abuses. They need to fear for their jobs and know it is a step too far. They also need to know they cannot pass the blame solely on obama for something they allowed to happen and they will be held responsible by losing their positions for such monumental corruption and complete corrosion of the constitution which they allow.
Rand Paul flip flop anyone?
Ron Paul fans furious over Rand Paul's drone flip-flop | FP Passport
march 7: Paul's filibuster provokes answer from Holder - CBS News
march 5: Eric Holder: Drone Strike To Kill U.S. Citizen On American Soil Legal - HuffPoWhite House press secretary Jay Carney read both Paul's question and Holder's response at today's briefing.
"Senator Paul has raised questions about the president's authority to use leghal force within the United States, which John Brennan and the Attorney General have both answered," Carney said. "Today, Sen. Paul raised an additional question and the Attorney General has answered it."
According to Carney, Paul asked, "Does the president have the authority to use a weaponized drone to kill an American not engaged in combat on American soil?"
In his response, also read by Carney, Holder replied succinctly: "The answer to that question is no."
who, eugene robinson? jake tapper? dana milbank? chuck todd? ron fournier? patrick leahy, john conyers? the nyt ed board?It's obvious that's all you listen to