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Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

sry,
but nearly 10% of the german soldiers are gay. To be a soldier is very famous by gays.
Perhaps You just know effiminate gays, cause you don´t know about the sexual orientation of other gay men.
Most gays are straight-looking. Most gays discriminate against effiminated men, in saying: "I want a man, not a man who are a woman."

Odd stat about German soldiers, what is your source?
 
I would assume if I was a 13 year old boy put into a pup tent with a 13 year old girl I would make a move as you put it,

That sounds like a personal problem. If you can't keep your hands to yourself, then that's an individual situation, not a general one.

I expect a certain level of respect and trustworthiness from any Boy Scout, be him gay or straight.
 
Yeah they probably want to join the boy scouts for the same reasons I would of liked to join the girl scouts. LMAO

You're a 40 year old man who wanted to join the Girl Scouts? I think we have a bigger problem on our hands now.
 
That sounds like a personal problem. If you can't keep your hands to yourself, then that's an individual situation, not a general one.

I expect a certain level of respect and trustworthiness from any Boy Scout, be him gay or straight.

If you expect a 13 year old boy not to hit on a 13 year old girl he spends the night with in a pup tent you must be gay.
 
You're a 40 year old man who wanted to join the Girl Scouts? I think we have a bigger problem on our hands now.

"would of" = past tense and the fact that you have to attempt this slur means you are out of arguments for your position, I win.:)

Besides that I'm 60 but thanks.:lol:
 
"would of" = past tense and the fact that you have to attempt this slur means you are out of arguments for your position, I win.:

There was no slur. You are projecting old man.

If you had won this debate (Or were even close to winning it) you wouldn't be using such ****ty arguments.
 
Yeah they probably want to join the boy scouts for the same reasons I would of liked to join the girl scouts. LMAO

Some of them probably. It's not like there were no gays in Boy Scouts before, they just couldn't tell anyone. If they force themselves on someone else, that's rape even if they are gay.

But trust me, I'm sure Boy Scout camps have seen their fair share of gay sex.
 
If you expect a 13 year old boy not to hit on a 13 year old girl he spends the night with in a pup tent you must be gay.

That's not even close to what I said. You should get some reading glasses.

You said you (i.e, YOU) would make a move. That shows that YOU couldn't control yourselves.

By allowing Gay boys into the Boy Scouts, we entrust that they behave like proper scouts and do the right thing. That includes keeping their hands to themselves.
 
You'd be surprised. Nowadays, teens still use 'gay, 'fag' and 'faggots', but they rarely are intended as gay slurs.

My point was more that kids are dicks to each other. Such teasing tends to be a common right of passage in childhood

"you might be confusing the reaction from his peers with a ban on participation."

Can you clarify this?

sure: officially accepting gay members won't change the fact that kids tease
 
As I said before when gays were banned from the club and I will repeat now that they are not, the boy scouts have the right to make access decisions on who can join their club. I hope the opposing side that liked my posts in those threads will show everyone they have nothing against gays by liking this post as well.

It's not up to us to decide on who they want in their club and as I said before I really don't care one way or the other.


What if they wanted to exclude blacks or latinos? What if they wanted to exclude the blind or wheel-chair bound kids. That's their right....right? Afterall....it's not up to us to decide on who they want in their club?
 
My point was more that kids are dicks to each other. Such teasing tends to be a common right of passage in childhood

True, but teasing only can go so far. By removing the gay ban, it removes a sense of validation to the it. It's not fun when there's no point.
 
True, but teasing only can go so far. By removing the gay ban, it removes a sense of validation to the it. It's not fun when there's no point.

Did you not associate with other children when you were younger, or something?
 
Did you not associate with other children when you were younger, or something?

Kids tease each other for MANY reasons. Shall we not include kids in scouts that wear glasses because they might get teased? You're sounding ridiculous and desperate at this point.
 
My suspicion that you affirmed was this gay thing is the opening salvo in getting rid of the BOY scouts and eventually just having scouts.

You keep increasing my suspicions that you care so little about what a Scout stands for and a great deal more concern on what he has between his legs and what he is going to do with it when he grows up.

Now about your so-called knowledge of gay men all being 'fems'. You obviously don't know gay men. They run the spectrum from fem to super butch. There are quite a few who could snatch and jerk you into the next county, which isn't a sex thang.... uh unless you want it to be, I'll bet most wouldn't mind turning you out... ;)
 
Kids tease each other for MANY reasons. Shall we not include kids in scouts that wear glasses because they might get teased?

What are you even talking about?

You're sounding ridiculous and desperate at this point.

I think the issue might be with your reading comprehension.
 
Damn those homosexuals for wanting to be free of discrimination!

A private, religious organization not wanting to let members in who are open and honest about doing something that is in their eyes an abomination and sinful is not discrimination. Freedom doesn't mean you are free to impose your self on others even if they would rather go on camping trips and tie knots without you. It means you have the right to form your own club to go camping with if that club, using THEIR freedom, makes a rule that you can't join.
 
What if they wanted to exclude blacks or latinos? What if they wanted to exclude the blind or wheel-chair bound kids. That's their right....right? Afterall....it's not up to us to decide on who they want in their club?

Correct.. They should have the right to choose to allow the people they want in their private club. You can make your own club if you'd like. Do you want to go play in the WNBA also?
 
Why the hell should I respect ignorant fools like you?

Interesting you should ask.

See, I'm not asking for your respect. I'm putting my opinion and my beliefs out there and you can choose to respect them or not. I'm also answering questions about why I believe what I believe because that's part of EARNING respect. That's also pretty much the opposite of what the gay activists have convinced the scouts to do to themselves and it's exactly why I'm bitching about this decision.

Let me be more clear....people have an inherent right to be treated as human beings but they DO NOT have an inherent right to be accepted by society or respected by that society.
 
Did you not associate with other children when you were younger, or something?

No, I was born and raised in Antarctica. I hunted seals and lived with the Penguins. Why do you ask?
 
I don't agree with you. "Openly gay" has some connotations that could turn a boy scout troop into a joke. Unless they're asking the question on forms volunteer leaders are asked to fill out, I have no problem with it at all.

Simply living with a male partner or having a husband can prevent a gay man from being a scout leader, even if the only thing that makes them "obviously" gay is that they are in a relationship with someone of the same sex. Just because a person is gay and "open" does not mean that it is a major part of how they present themselves.
 
I know some gay guys that are "just like everybody else." I also know some gay guys that are flamboyantly gay. You know what I mean. (I don't see this same flamboyance in lesbians at all. It's the flamboyance I'm thinking about. Many moms send their kids to Boy Scouts for the male role models they provide in their leadership. There are some gays who don't model that very well. That's just a fact.

I'm betting it's a don't-ask/don't-tell policy. It's a private organization....given that, I think they've taken a great first step. And the right one.

And there are some (not many but still some) heterosexual men who would appear flamboyantly gay. (That dad from one of those pageant shows comes to mind, married to a woman and he sewed the girls costumes and set up routines for her. He was basically the "pageant mom" type, but a man. He would be allowed to be a BSA scout leader.) There are some heterosexuals who don't model a typical male role model either, but that doesn't prevent them from being troop leaders. If it were all about "the correct male model", then it should be based on the behaviors themselves, not their sexuality.
 
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