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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    If you mean the scout master who is supposed to be teaching the fundamental principles of the oath then yes, him.

    If the kid hadn't done anything overt to express his sexual preference then it was the other kids that were creating the problem and that's unacceptable.
    Many of these kids got kicked out because they mentioned their "preference" outside of the scouts, such as in school or maybe a picture or story of them in the news that showed them as gay or with a boyfriend, instead of a girlfriend. It didn't even have to be about them being gay, just mentioned and they were kicked out for it.
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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    That's clearly not what I said.

    The BSA is generally a more conservative organization whereas homosexuals are generally an ultra liberal demographic group.

    Homosexuals, particularly young homosexuals, are probably the most liberal demographic there is.

    Part of what makes scouting so appealing to the conservatives that have made up the organization for generations is the belief that hard work and dedication is the route to success. Right or wrong, this is a belief liberals tend to reject. They tend to see success as being the result of the proper skin pigmentation and how wealthy one's parents are. I'm not against letting gays into scouts but I wonder how long before the requirements to become an Eagle Scout are modified because it is suddenly culturally biased or single parent households can't take time off to do all the activities.
    Actually, I saw something just recently that said that most young gay men were libertarians, not liberals.
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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Part of the problem modern Consevatives face is there is no space for them to change their minds on their stance on gays. There is no place for them even if they could...........................

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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    True enough. It is however meaningful enough to point out.
    Not much as no one has ever really done what you complain about.

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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    It was Conservatives who launched a kulturkampf.......................
    Huh???

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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    The BSA is generally a more conservative organization whereas homosexuals are generally an ultra liberal demographic group.
    Might have something to do with how conservatives treat homosexuals. There's nothing about being queer that intrinsically makes a man liberal.

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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Huh???

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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    When the hell will we get past this idiocy of having to embrace every damned proclivity a person might have? There have been gays in the BSA probably forever. I don't recall ever seeing "gender identity and/or sexual preference" on any of the applications. If you were in the scouts and you were gay and you kept it to yourself then there never was a problem. If, however, you decided to make it an issue then you were being disruptive and you were out. The same applied to people who made their religion an issue or made their ethnicity an issue.

    When I was in the service it was the same way. I can't imagine that some percentage of the guys I served with weren't gay but they didn't make it an issue so it wasn't a problem. What counts is what you do with your life and how you conduct yourself, not your damned "gender identity". That's your own personal thing to deal with and I don't need to know about it.

    Why the hell should I have to respect you just because you're queer? What makes you so damned special that you can just circumvent all the other crap that goes into EARNING respect?

    This wasn't a courageous decision by the scouts. It was acquiescing to popular opinion. This wasn't loyalty to ones principles. It was utter abandonment of those principles.
    Why the hell should I respect ignorant fools like you?

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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    I'm not so much against gays being admitted as I am allowing an ultra liberal demographic into a conservative organization.

    I'm glad that the scouts made the decision on their own but I wonder how long until the experience is ruined by political correctness. It almost seems inevitable that hard work and achievement will give way to quotas and an "everyone needs to be an Eagle Scout" mentality.
    So everyone gay is ultra liberal and conservatives ****ting on them, for example until today the BSA, has nothing to do with that? Kids aren't born with a political lean.

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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not much as no one has ever really done what you complain about.
    Do you know what I was complaining about?

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