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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That is some argument. I seem to recall conservatives loving that argument in battles they lost eventually.

    Btw, you realize I'm not talking about the entire law, right?


    You are not going to change any part of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.





    Why do you keep posting that quote? It doesn't apply here.


    It applies everywhere.

    I'll post whatever quote that I want to post, you aren't the boss here and you will never be my boss.

    Deal with it.




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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    What exactly do you think involuntary servitude is? Because I do not think it means what you think it means. Especially when you said that owning other people was already illegal when the 13th amendment was enacted. Have you studied American history? Say, around the 1860s? Seriously, I don't think you understand what involuntary servitude is.
    At what point did I say it was illegal before the thirteenth amendment? Want to quote that for me?

    And that's generally what is proposed to do to the Boy Scouts if they keep discriminating. And let me tell you, the BSA does not have the kind of money to build its own buildings. Nor to pay full price for the space it uses for the Jamboree. The Boy Scouts gets a lot of benefits from the federal government. And the price they have to pay for those benefits is that they can't discriminate based on race, religion, sexual orientation, or many other elements. Honestly, the program shouldn't be sex-exclusive, either. The Girl Scouts and Venturers (who don't engage in all this discriminatory BS) are a different organization.
    Yeah, that is nice and all. I don't care.

    Quoting this quote. I like it very much.
    It doesn't apply here.

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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post

    It doesn't apply here.
    Pretty funny considering your entire argument has no relevance to this thread
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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post



    You are not going to change any part of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

    How is that argument working for conservatives and gay marriage? I'm guessing they aren't about to lose or anything.






    It applies everywhere.
    It only applies where there is right of people. No one has the right to access other peoples property, to force people to associate with them, or force people into servitude.

    I'll post whatever quote that I want to post, you aren't the boss here and you will never be my boss.

    Deal with it.
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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    What war? It's a step forward for accepting people as they are.

    Personally, if they asked me I would have just removed any policy whatsoever on scouts or leaders. Leave that to the individual troops.
    Well it's certainly a step somewhere.

    As I wrote, it remains to be seen what will happen to the Boy Scouts as a result. It may be that enough people are turned off by the politicizing of Scouting that they go elsewhere, and that has a negative impact on the Boy Scouts.

    If they chose to leave, that would be their right. However, I wouldn't expect such freedom of association to be applauded by those demanding freedom of association.

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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I don't think businesses have the right to discriminate against people based on factors such as race, religion, sexual orientation, gender, etc
    If it's operated as "private" only open to dues' paying members, I think they can in many jurisdictions. Country clubs being a classic example.
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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    No one has the right to access other peoples property, to force people to associate with them, or force people into servitude.



    Someone has to inform you of your errors. How else are you going to learn?
    People have the right to access businesses that are open to the public.

    Someone has to inform you of your errors. How else are you going to learn?
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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    If it's operated as "private" only open to dues' paying members, I think they can in many jurisdictions. Country clubs being a classic example.
    Private clubs can do so.

    Businesses are a different matter.
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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I don't think businesses have the right to discriminate against people based on factors such as race, religion, sexual orientation, gender, etc
    Yes, for some reason people believe that all other rights are somehow trumped if you want service from a business. I know.

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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Private clubs can do so.

    Businesses are a different matter.
    and yet there is no logic to that either.

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