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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Did you know that all anti-discrimination laws breach the right to association and violate the thirteen amendment? No? Well, you do now. Many of them breach the right to property as well, obviously.

    Like it or not, people have the right to associate and do business with who they want.
    Did you know that the BSA's decision was not forced by any anti-discrimination laws?
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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Well if you want to denigrate gays by calling them homos, feel free.

    Stating that it is not over is just a reality.

    Didn't say anything about the BSA being oppressed. People should be free to associate with whomever they want to associate as long as it isn't state sponsored. I guess some people feel more entitled than others. Personally, if I were gay, I wouldn't want to be a part of an organization that did not want me. I don't try to force my way into the Scientology Center or Nation of Islam meetings. In reality, the scouts are largely a bunch of geeks so I never had a real desire to participate. I am sure they did great things at one time, but I just don't see it today. Big Brothers is a more relevant organization to at-risk boys than the scouts.
    I see the Pity Parade has started to move.

    Now they're whining about how the BSA has been denied their freedom of association!! Waahhh!! Waahh!!
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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    When the hell will we get past this idiocy of having to embrace every damned proclivity a person might have? There have been gays in the BSA probably forever. I don't recall ever seeing "gender identity and/or sexual preference" on any of the applications. If you were in the scouts and you were gay and you kept it to yourself then there never was a problem. If, however, you decided to make it an issue then you were being disruptive and you were out. The same applied to people who made their religion an issue or made their ethnicity an issue.

    When I was in the service it was the same way. I can't imagine that some percentage of the guys I served with weren't gay but they didn't make it an issue so it wasn't a problem. What counts is what you do with your life and how you conduct yourself, not your damned "gender identity". That's your own personal thing to deal with and I don't need to know about it.

    Why the hell should I have to respect you just because you're queer? What makes you so damned special that you can just circumvent all the other crap that goes into EARNING respect?

    This wasn't a courageous decision by the scouts. It was acquiescing to popular opinion. This wasn't loyalty to ones principles. It was utter abandonment of those principles.

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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I see the Pity Parade has started to move.

    Now they're whining about how the BSA has been denied their freedom of association!! Waahhh!! Waahh!!
    Be as dramatic as you want to be and keep trolling all you want, but I could give a rat's butt about you or which slot your tab goes into or the other way around. I know this will shock you, but some people might dislike you for reasons having nothing to do with your sexuality

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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Be as dramatic as you want to be and keep trolling all you want, but I could give a rat's butt about you or which slot your tab goes into or the other way around. I know this will shock you, but some people might dislike you for reasons having nothing to do with your sexuality
    Yes, you're whining about how the BSA's constitutional rights are being oppressed, and I'm the drama queen!
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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Did you know that the BSA's decision was not forced by any anti-discrimination laws?
    Indeed. Your point? The right to association and the right to property still allows them to decide access and allows them to do business with whomever they please. Your cries about discrimination are crying about something that is a protected right.

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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    When the hell will we get past this idiocy of having to embrace every damned proclivity a person might have? There have been gays in the BSA probably forever. I don't recall ever seeing "gender identity and/or sexual preference" on any of the applications. If you were in the scouts and you were gay and you kept it to yourself then there never was a problem. If, however, you decided to make it an issue then you were being disruptive and you were out. The same applied to people who made their religion an issue or made their ethnicity an issue.

    When I was in the service it was the same way. I can't imagine that some percentage of the guys I served with weren't gay but they didn't make it an issue so it wasn't a problem. What counts is what you do with your life and how you conduct yourself, not your damned "gender identity". That's your own personal thing to deal with and I don't need to know about it.

    Why the hell should I have to respect you just because you're queer? What makes you so damned special that you can just circumvent all the other crap that goes into EARNING respect?

    This wasn't a courageous decision by the scouts. It was acquiescing to popular opinion. This wasn't loyalty to ones principles. It was utter abandonment of those principles.


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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Are there really that many gay boys that want to be Boy Scouts? Do gay boys want to hike into the wilderness, pitch tents, camp out with no modern conveniences, build camp fires etc? I just don't think so, most would rather be shopping or cooking in a nice kitchen so it is really a non issue.

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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Did you know that all anti-discrimination laws breach the right to association and violate the thirteen amendment? No? Well, you do now. Many of them breach the right to property as well, obviously.

    Like it or not, people have the right to associate and do business with who they want.
    Is that your opinion or a court tested fact? Best I can recall the business doesn't have a right to refuse customers due to race, ethnicity, and a long rather well known list.

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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Are there really that many gay boys that want to be Boy Scouts? Do gay boys want to hike into the wilderness, pitch tents, camp out with no modern conveniences, build camp fires etc? I just don't think so, most would rather be shopping or cooking in a nice kitchen so it is really a non issue.
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