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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I got you. I was wondering what badges would be taken back. It seemed a bit absurd. "Sorry, no hiking badge for you".
    I thought I read a story about them refusing to let an Eagle Scout earn that just because he was found to be gay before the ceremony, but I think if they did refuse to recognize any badges as "earned" for being homosexual, it would probably be ones that were about morality or religion or perhaps honesty (as a girl and really someone who doesn't plan on having her kids in scouts (because I don't approve of the "no atheists/agnostics policy) I just don't know what badges are available to begin with).
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Yeah, and until you propose a change my argument will stand.



    Lol! So no one can put you into involuntary servitude but you can put business owners into involuntary servitude?! Yeah, that is some logic alright. Would you like to try again?
    I win. Your argument is stillc rap and wrong even by your own argument. Do not get mad at me because i know when you are beaten and you do not. I guess the clue by four is not sufficient to get through, but it was fun beating you over the head repeatedly with it.

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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    I win. Your argument is stillc rap and wrong even by your own argument. Do not get mad at me because i know when you are beaten and you do not. I guess the clue by four is not sufficient to get through, but it was fun beating you over the head repeatedly with it.
    Want to tell me how you can put someone into involuntary servitude and not violate the thirteenth amendment? No? Yeah, I didn't think so.

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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    It is still private property regardless of subsidies or privileges from the government. The right to association and the right to control access to your property still stands.
    Not when they use public buildings, which I believe they often do.

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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Not when they use public buildings, which I believe they often do.
    If they are in a public building that changes nothing since the organization itself is private. Though I suppose you could kick them out of the public building.

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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The thirteenth amendment is redundant. Even before it was put in place no one had the right to own another human being or the right to anyone else's labor or service.

    Btw, your argument is bizarre. I'm making a constitutional argument as it stands now. If you would like to change the constitution to make my argument invalid you would have to rip into some pretty well supported elements. Good luck.
    No, you are making an appeal to authority and doing it badly

    The constitution allows the govt to limit people's rights.
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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No, you are making an appeal to authority and doing it badly

    The constitution allows the govt to limit people's rights.
    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Want to tell me how you can put someone into involuntary servitude and not violate the thirteenth amendment? No? Yeah, I didn't think so.
    You know what it probably is? I bet it's some weird exception that if the business is "open to the public"(because we know that isn't actually a myth and actually exists in real life.) that you can make the owners of that establishment your servants against their will. Yeah, I bet that is how the logic goes.

    Because what has practicing logic ever done for us? Nothing.

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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    If they are in a public building that changes nothing since the organization itself is private. Though I suppose you could kick them out of the public building.
    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    You know what probably is? I bet it's some weird exception that if the business is "open to the public"(because we know that isn't actually a myth) that you can make the owners of that establishment your servants against their will. Yeah, I bet that is how the logic goes.

    Wrong. It is perfectly constitutional for the govt to prohibit businesses that engage in commerce from discriminating on the basis sexual orientation
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Well, it seems that is true. I suppose time will tell whether the Gay Lobby will have won the battle, but lost the war.
    What war? It's a step forward for accepting people as they are.

    Personally, if they asked me I would have just removed any policy whatsoever on scouts or leaders. Leave that to the individual troops.


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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Wrong. It is perfectly constitutional for the govt to prohibit businesses that engage in commerce from discriminating on the basis sexual orientation
    Is that an argument?

    Btw, don't even open the can of worms about commerce. That is just another whole bucket of fail for you.

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