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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    I do not see how this is a positive. Sexuality discussions should have no place with kids like this. Especially at what can be a very confusing time of life.

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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    Remember how people used to make fun of celebrities that came out as gay? Why did that stop? Why did people stop making fun of Ellen, and Seacrest?
    Because those people focused on earning respect based on their work and left the "love me, I'm gay" groupies to do their own thing.

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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    You suggested that official policy change would impact how kids perceive homosexuals and teasing.

    Such is rather naive
    I don't think so, provided the Scout Masters nip it instantly in the bud and verbally slap kids that think such teasing is cute. If it even happens at all.

    To those who say "They didn't go far enough," be aware that this is a definite step in the exact right direction. And they didn't have to do change their policy at all.
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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Yeah they probably want to join the boy scouts for the same reasons I would of liked to join the girl scouts. LMAO
    I highly doubt you would legitimately want to join the girl scouts for the same reason that homosexual boys want to join the boy scouts. As a girl scout, when we went "camping", we slept in a building, on mattresses, made ribbon dancers for a project and learned a routine with it, and we went camping once, at Camp Golden Valley. Our meetings were held in a room where the scout leader normally taught preschoolers. We learned about the "brownies" who were really the children who cleaned for their parents. I would have much rather learned what the boys learned in boy scouts, how to actually do outdoor things, go camping, being rugged. And there are plenty of gay boys who want to learn those things.

    I don't understand why you think just because you can't/couldn't control your urges, you believe no one else can either.
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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by Drake McHugh View Post
    I do not see how this is a positive. Sexuality discussions should have no place with kids like this. Especially at what can be a very confusing time of life.
    Nobody's having "sexuality discussions" in the Boy Scouts. They are simply accepting kids no matter their sexuality. The gay witch hunts of the past were discussing sexuality.


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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    If you expect a 13 year old boy not to hit on a 13 year old girl he spends the night with in a pup tent you must be gay.
    There was a 15 year old boy who took me on a date who didn't know how to hit on a girl, so I don't know why you believe most 13 year old boys wouldn't be scared of making such moves.
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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    I think I understand lifting the ban on gay scouts but not on gay scout leaders.

    For gay scouts, it is so now accepted not to discriminate against gays - and many schools now even require students attend gay sensitivity training for which then students are tested on gay acceptance, increasing numbers of parents and kids wouldn't participate even if not gay themselves in if there is discrimination against gay boys.

    But I also understand why not to allow gay scout leaders. The Scouts are between a rock and a hard place due to how legalistic American society is. IF they go thru intense interrogations of gay applicants, they will be accused of discrimination. If they don't, and there is proof of sex with the boys, the Scouts are in Catholic-Church style lawsuits that could cost financially destroy the Scouts economically.

    IF the boy scouts do NOT allow opposite gender scout leaders, then the same rational justifies not allowing gay scout leaders for same sex scouts. For example, if the Scouts won't allow men to be Girl Scout leaders, it is then "fair" they do not allow gay men to be Boy Scout leaders for boys for the same sexual abuse potential issues - and same MASSIVE potential legal risks.

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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I highly doubt you would legitimately want to join the girl scouts for the same reason that homosexual boys want to join the boy scouts. As a girl scout, when we went "camping", we slept in a building, on mattresses, made ribbon dancers for a project and learned a routine with it, and we went camping once, at Camp Golden Valley. Our meetings were held in a room where the scout leader normally taught preschoolers. We learned about the "brownies" who were really the children who cleaned for their parents. I would have much rather learned what the boys learned in boy scouts, how to actually do outdoor things, go camping, being rugged. And there are plenty of gay boys who want to learn those things.

    I don't understand why you think just because you can't/couldn't control your urges, you believe no one else can either.
    Sounds to me like gay boys would be more at home in the girl scouts. My would have liked to join the GS remark was obviously humor, get one. A sense of humor that is.

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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Sounds to me like gay boys would be more at home in the girl scouts. My would have liked to join the GS remark was obviously humor, get one. A sense of humor that is.
    You continue to stereotype, badly. There is no reason to believe that most gay boys would be less like straight boys and more like girls. You are venting something here, with no reason.

    And, no, you aren't funny. Trying to put everyone in a particular negative connotation just because they belong to a particular group shows that you hold some negative feelings toward that group. This is a debate, not your personal standup test platform.
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    Re: Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I don't think so, provided the Scout Masters nip it instantly in the bud and verbally slap kids that think such teasing is cute. If it even happens at all.

    To those who say "They didn't go far enough," be aware that this is a definite step in the exact right direction. And they didn't have to do change their policy at all.

    Go to any school and see how well kids respond to an authority figure telling them not to tease a person

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