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    Fort Hood Suspect Wants to Represent Himself.....AP Newswire

    The Army psychiatrist charged in the deadly 2009 Fort Hood attack wants to represent himself at his upcoming murder trial, which means he could question the nearly three dozen soldiers he's accused of wounding in the shooting rampage.

    Maj. Nidal Hasan's request, announced Wednesday by Fort Hood officials, is to be considered at a pretrial hearing next week. The request prompted the military judge, Col. Tara Osborn, to delay jury selection to June 5, about a week after it was scheduled to start.

    Hasan, an American-born Muslim, faces the death penalty or life in prison without parole if convicted of 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder in the Nov. 5, 2009, attack on the Texas Army post, about 125 miles southwest of Fort Worth.

    Military law allows defendants to represent themselves, but the judge will ask Hasan's attorneys to stay throughout the trial in case he asks for their help, according to court-martial guidelines. Two of Hasan's three Army attorneys have represented him since shortly after his arrest.

    At a hearing earlier this month, Hasan told Osborn that he wanted to plead guilty. But Army rules prohibit a judge from accepting a guilty plea to charges that could result in a death sentence. Osborn also denied his request to plead guilty to lesser murder charges, citing legal issues that could have arisen because his death penalty trial still would have proceeded.....snip~

    AP Newswire | Stars and Stripes

    First he wanted the Judge to Allow him to Enter a Guilty Plea. Now he wants to Represent himself. Jury selection now has been delayed. He did fire one attorney. So not only is he getting paid. Defying court orders, refusing Military Orders.....but now will play with as much of the law as he can. Again why is this taking so long?

    Why shouldn't this be considered an Act of Terrorism?

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Wants to Represent Himself.....AP Newswire

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    The Army psychiatrist charged in the deadly 2009 Fort Hood attack wants to represent himself at his upcoming murder trial, which means he could question the nearly three dozen soldiers he's accused of wounding in the shooting rampage.

    Maj. Nidal Hasan's request, announced Wednesday by Fort Hood officials, is to be considered at a pretrial hearing next week. The request prompted the military judge, Col. Tara Osborn, to delay jury selection to June 5, about a week after it was scheduled to start.

    Hasan, an American-born Muslim, faces the death penalty or life in prison without parole if convicted of 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder in the Nov. 5, 2009, attack on the Texas Army post, about 125 miles southwest of Fort Worth.

    Military law allows defendants to represent themselves, but the judge will ask Hasan's attorneys to stay throughout the trial in case he asks for their help, according to court-martial guidelines. Two of Hasan's three Army attorneys have represented him since shortly after his arrest.

    At a hearing earlier this month, Hasan told Osborn that he wanted to plead guilty. But Army rules prohibit a judge from accepting a guilty plea to charges that could result in a death sentence. Osborn also denied his request to plead guilty to lesser murder charges, citing legal issues that could have arisen because his death penalty trial still would have proceeded.....snip~

    AP Newswire | Stars and Stripes

    First he wanted the Judge to Allow him to Enter a Guilty Plea. Now he wants to Represent himself. Jury selection now has been delayed. He did fire one attorney. So not only is he getting paid. Defying court orders, refusing Military Orders.....but now will play with as much of the law as he can. Again why is this taking so long?

    Why shouldn't this be considered an Act of Terrorism?
    This whole process should have been over and done with already, but curtailing his rights is not the way to shorten it.

    One of the problems we have with this war on terrorism is our near complete inability to actually complete a trial for anyone. After WW2 we managed to complete the Nazi trials by 1946, of course this is a different situation but hell there's no reason it should take as long as it does to try someone in court after we've capatured or arrested them.

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Wants to Represent Himself.....AP Newswire

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    The Army psychiatrist charged in the deadly 2009 Fort Hood attack wants to represent himself at his upcoming murder trial, which means he could question the nearly three dozen soldiers he's accused of wounding in the shooting rampage.

    Maj. Nidal Hasan's request, announced Wednesday by Fort Hood officials, is to be considered at a pretrial hearing next week. The request prompted the military judge, Col. Tara Osborn, to delay jury selection to June 5, about a week after it was scheduled to start.

    Hasan, an American-born Muslim, faces the death penalty or life in prison without parole if convicted of 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder in the Nov. 5, 2009, attack on the Texas Army post, about 125 miles southwest of Fort Worth.

    Military law allows defendants to represent themselves, but the judge will ask Hasan's attorneys to stay throughout the trial in case he asks for their help, according to court-martial guidelines. Two of Hasan's three Army attorneys have represented him since shortly after his arrest.

    At a hearing earlier this month, Hasan told Osborn that he wanted to plead guilty. But Army rules prohibit a judge from accepting a guilty plea to charges that could result in a death sentence. Osborn also denied his request to plead guilty to lesser murder charges, citing legal issues that could have arisen because his death penalty trial still would have proceeded.....snip~

    AP Newswire | Stars and Stripes

    First he wanted the Judge to Allow him to Enter a Guilty Plea. Now he wants to Represent himself. Jury selection now has been delayed. He did fire one attorney. So not only is he getting paid. Defying court orders, refusing Military Orders.....but now will play with as much of the law as he can. Again why is this taking so long?

    Why shouldn't this be considered an Act of Terrorism?
    This whole process should have been over and done with already, but curtailing his rights is not the way to shorten it.

    One of the problems we have with this war on terrorism is our near complete inability to actually complete a trial for anyone. After WW2 we managed to complete the Nazi trials by 1946, of course this is a different situation but hell there's no reason it should take as long as it does to try someone in court after we've capatured or arrested them.

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Wants to Represent Himself.....AP Newswire

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Why shouldn't this be considered an Act of Terrorism?
    Because he attacked soldiers on a military base.

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    He was/is an active duty member of the US military. We can discuss terminology all day, but he killed US military personelle and he was one himself at the time, so one would really have to stretch to call it enemy fire. At this time I really dont see why what you call it makes any difference, but that always seems so important to some...
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    Because he attacked soldiers on a military base.
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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Wants to Represent Himself.....AP Newswire

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    He was/is an active duty member of the US military. We can discuss terminology all day, but he killed US military personelle and he was one himself at the time, so one would really have to stretch to call it enemy fire. At this time I really dont see why what you call it makes any difference, but that always seems so important to some...
    Then it's treason and murder. Attacking soldiers on a base can not be terrorism. Otherwise every base we've ever attacked ever was a terrorist attack.

    D-Day assault on Normandy beach? TERRORISM!

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Wants to Represent Himself.....AP Newswire

    It is murder. Treason is very hard to prove but I am all for it if they can. I dont know what you mean about every base we have ever attacked? DDay assualt was against hte Germans.
    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Then it's treason and murder. Attacking soldiers on a base can not be terrorism. Otherwise every base we've ever attacked ever was a terrorist attack.

    D-Day assault on Normandy beach? TERRORISM!
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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Wants to Represent Himself.....AP Newswire

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Because he attacked soldiers on a military base.
    Heya RA. While true how many Civilians were working in the medical facility on the base? Why did he target only those in Uniform then?

    If it is not act of terrorism then it is an act of war.....is it not?

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Wants to Represent Himself.....AP Newswire

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    It is murder. Treason is very hard to prove but I am all for it if they can. I dont know what you mean about every base we have ever attacked? DDay assualt was against hte Germans.
    Of course it was. It was an attack on a military target for political reasons. By this definition, most of the people on these threads should see D-Day as a terrorist attack.

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya RA. While true how many Civilians were working in the medical facility on the base? Why did he target only those in Uniform then?

    If it is not act of terrorism then it is an act of war.....is it not?
    If he targeted only those in uniform then it is treason, an act of war, and or simply murder. Terrorism doesn't even remotely apply. People want it to be terrorism because he's muslim and shouted muslim bs. If he were only sociopathic like the Newton shooter, it wouldn't be terrorism in their eyes.

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Wants to Represent Himself.....AP Newswire

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Of course it was. It was an attack on a military target for political reasons. By this definition, most of the people on these threads should see D-Day as a terrorist attack.



    If he targeted only those in uniform then it is treason, an act of war, and or simply murder. Terrorism doesn't even remotely apply. People want it to be terrorism because he's muslim and shouted muslim bs. If he were only sociopathic like the Newton shooter, it wouldn't be terrorism in their eyes.
    Well.....we know he tried to contact AQ. We know he blamed the Wars Afghanistan and Iraq. Also we know he did try to intentionally kill some as they hid behind and under tables. Wherein he reloaded and moved towards those concealed. We also have him believing he would have been killed in the attack.

    So in determining.....All that is Needed. Is Purpose.....or if ya from New Jersey. That would be Poipose. Just kiddin.




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