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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Wants to Represent Himself.....AP Newswire

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Or perhaps motive also plays a part in the accusation.
    A motive like "kill the enemy because I want my side to win this war?"

    Motive is a component, but so is the action.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Wants to Represent Himself.....AP Newswire

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This whole process should have been over and done with already, but curtailing his rights is not the way to shorten it.

    One of the problems we have with this war on terrorism is our near complete inability to actually complete a trial for anyone. After WW2 we managed to complete the Nazi trials by 1946, of course this is a different situation but hell there's no reason it should take as long as it does to try someone in court after we've capatured or arrested them.
    Hey, it's ONLY been three years!
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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Wants to Represent Himself.....AP Newswire

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    A motive like "kill the enemy because I want my side to win this war?"

    Motive is a component, but so is the action.
    He apparently had ties to terrorist groups but so long as this guy is made an example of, it really doesn't matter to me.

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Wants to Represent Himself.....AP Newswire

    Quote Originally Posted by wbcoleman View Post
    Hey, it's ONLY been three years!
    Political consideration might have to be taken into account. We certainly don't want to offend anyone's feelings.

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Wants to Represent Himself.....AP Newswire

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    He apparently had ties to terrorist groups but so long as this guy is made an example of, it really doesn't matter to me.
    Right. Murder, treason, war crimes. Can the charges really get any more severe? Simply being a radical muslim attached to/turned by a terrorist group doesn't magically turn all of your actions into terrorism. Osama Bin Laden taking out the trash doesn't make trash disposal terrorism, because if you call it that suddenly there's a lot of terrorists driving around in dump trucks in the US.

    In my personal opinion, attacking military targets just doesn't count as terrorism, because that's how war works. Your soldiers shoot their soldiers. We're still calling this a war, right?

    That doesn't make Hasan's actions justified: it's freaking mass murder, treason, and probably a war crime or two. He was apparently radicalized and driven to action through communication with other extremists. Also not terrorism, when the CIA does it we usually call it espionage or something.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Wants to Represent Himself.....AP Newswire

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Right. Murder, treason, war crimes. Can the charges really get any more severe? Simply being a radical muslim attached to/turned by a terrorist group doesn't magically turn all of your actions into terrorism. Osama Bin Laden taking out the trash doesn't make trash disposal terrorism, because if you call it that suddenly there's a lot of terrorists driving around in dump trucks in the US.

    In my personal opinion, attacking military targets just doesn't count as terrorism, because that's how war works. Your soldiers shoot their soldiers. We're still calling this a war, right?

    That doesn't make Hasan's actions justified: it's freaking mass murder, treason, and probably a war crime or two. He was apparently radicalized and driven to action through communication with other extremists. Also not terrorism, when the CIA does it we usually call it espionage or something.
    He shot unarmed people not 'military targets' and, if it was war, whose side did he represent?

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Wants to Represent Himself.....AP Newswire

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    He shot unarmed people not 'military targets' and, if it was war, whose side did he represent?
    Soldiers on a military base are a military target even if weapons aren't in their hands. American airstrikes have killed plenty of insurgents who happen to not be holding weapons. You're not calling our fighter pilots terrorists, are you?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Wants to Represent Himself.....AP Newswire

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    If attacking military targets counts as terrorism, better arrest basically the entire US military structure.
    Not really.....the issue with the USS COLE would be classified as an act of terrorism. Military targets attacked by civilians would be classified as so. Despite Clinton doing all he could to prevent the knowledge of the US being attacked by Terrorists. Later they would classify the Cole as an Act of Terrorism.

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Wants to Represent Himself.....AP Newswire

    Are any soldiers who lose it and shoot a fellow soldier on base terrorists?

    Is a crack addict who shoots a soldier at an ATM a terrorist?

    Some of the logic in this thread is faulty, more like "he was a muslim who shot a soldier, of course he's a terrorist".

    Beware the rights of others that you volunteer to give up. Our legal system, your legal system, is based on those rights. Terrorism is a crime and, when the terrorist is caught, should be tried as such.

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Wants to Represent Himself.....AP Newswire

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Soldiers on a military base are a military target even if weapons aren't in their hands. American airstrikes have killed plenty of insurgents who happen to not be holding weapons. You're not calling our fighter pilots terrorists, are you?
    No, i am not because there have been plenty of warnings prior to any strikes.

    Thanks for responding to the first part of the question but you never responded o the second part as to whose side he represented in the war.

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