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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Wants to Represent Himself.....AP Newswire

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Fine. I am sure you are exactly right, except for the allegation of treason is terribly difficult to prove and I am not sure he was even charged with that. I am anti death penalty but secretly I wont be too mad if the Major gets it. I dont think any thinking person will think a bit differently about this incident wehter you call it terrorism or workplace violence or whatever. I dont think it has a damn thing to do with any supposed agenda, it just give the right wing noise machine more noise.
    I can't understand being opposed to the death penalty but being secretly glad. (I do oppose the death penalty.)

    Trying to reduce Hasan's crimes to grist for the "right wing's" mill does a disservice to us all, though.

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Wants to Represent Himself.....AP Newswire

    In no way am I trying t reduce Hasan's crimes, a strawman, I aint falling for it.

    Intellectually I know the death penalty is wrong, occassionally emotionally I wish someone would get it. Never said I was perfect...
    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I can't understand being opposed to the death penalty but being secretly glad. (I do oppose the death penalty.)

    Trying to reduce Hasan's crimes to grist for the "right wing's" mill does a disservice to us all, though.
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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Wants to Represent Himself.....AP Newswire

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Are you saying it would not be hard to prove terrorism?
    I don't think it would be hard to prove that it is terrorism. Would you say this definition is exactly what the Good major can be identified as doing? Was the attack calculated? Was it Religious, Political, and or Ideological in nature?

    An act of Terrorism is the calculated use of violence against civilians, the government or any subject thereof in order to attain goals that are political, religious, and or Ideological in nature. It is Premeditated by thought with action. Time is a non factor.....snip~

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Wants to Represent Himself.....AP Newswire

    Link please?

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Wants to Represent Himself.....AP Newswire

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Link please?
    Yeah, okay.....here ya go NB.

    What's the difference between mass murder and terrorism?

    The FBI borrows the Code of Federal Regulations definition that defines terrorism this way: "the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives" [source: Department of Justice].....snip~

    HowStuffWorks "What's the difference between mass murder and terrorism?"

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Wants to Represent Himself.....AP Newswire

    I dont disagree with that, but it is a subset of workplace violence. He did it at his workplace. It was violent. The Army used the undeniably correct term. I was just arguing using the appropriate term does not constitute policically correctness.
    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah, okay.....here ya go NB.

    What's the difference between mass murder and terrorism?

    The FBI borrows the Code of Federal Regulations definition that defines terrorism this way: "the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives" [source: Department of Justice].....snip~

    HowStuffWorks "What's the difference between mass murder and terrorism?"
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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Wants to Represent Himself.....AP Newswire

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Alright RA.....like in the other thread we were in. What about this part of the FBI definition?

    The FBI borrows the Code of Federal Regulations definition that defines terrorism this way: "the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives" [source: Department of Justice].....snip~

    According to the FBI.....ANY segment of the government and or civilian population. So why shouldn't the grounds be Pressed for the issue to be declared an act of terrorism.
    Because it was simply an attack on a military target. There is nothing differentiating this between anything we do.

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Wants to Represent Himself.....AP Newswire

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah, okay.....here ya go NB.

    What's the difference between mass murder and terrorism?

    The FBI borrows the Code of Federal Regulations definition that defines terrorism this way: "the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives" [source: Department of Justice].....snip~

    HowStuffWorks "What's the difference between mass murder and terrorism?"
    Thanks for the link. And here is one for you--interested in your opinion: Exclusive: Suspect was inspired by cleric banned from UK after urging followers to behead enemies of Islam - Crime - UK - The Independent

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Wants to Represent Himself.....AP Newswire

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Because he attacked soldiers on a military base.
    So if a Muslim radical, Christian radical or atheist radical walked on MCB 29 Palms and detonated a body bomb and yelled God is Great, or My gal is Madalyn Murray O'Hair and killed a number of Marines in a Chapel service you would classify it as?

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Wants to Represent Himself.....AP Newswire

    Quote Originally Posted by hfd View Post
    So if a Muslim radical, Christian radical or atheist radical walked on MCB 29 Palms and detonated a body bomb and yelled God is Great, or My gal is Madalyn Murray O'Hair and killed a number of Marines in a Chapel service you would classify it as?
    It is a military target on a military base occupied by soldiers, therefore it is not terrorism.

    Would it be terrorism if one of our soldiers screamed "praise jesus!" as he shot or dropped a bomb on an enemy combatant?

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