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    Re: U.S. acknowledges killing of four U.S. citizens in counterterrorism operations

    Quote Originally Posted by vendur View Post
    You think dumbasses who (re)elected Adolph Obama suddenly give a rat's ass about the constitution?
    Probably about as much as the ones that voted for Romney. Neither party likes the Constitution when it gets in their way.


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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: U.S. acknowledges killing of four U.S. citizens in counterterrorism operations

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Come on... Benghazi has not only been debunked but it was never ever a scandal... a cock up with miss-communication maybe, but nothing more.

    Fact is there was 8 times more American's killed at US embassies/consuls/diplomatic missions under Bush... why were the very same right wingers not grilling Bush and his people on that and demanding their head on a platter?

    That when Obama uses drones that kills or targets Americans then it is all "OMFG" but when Bush used drones that killed or targeted Americans.. then it was /shrug and even hidden? And yes you can not tell me that under Bush, that not one American got killed by a drone attack anywhere in the world...So many people have dual citizenship in the middle east with one being American, that the chances an American got hit somewhere... is huge.

    Fact is that the American government has targeted its own citizens for whatever reason since the dawn of the Republic, so it should come as no shock that it happens under Obama or under the next president Clinton.

    This is just another anti-Obama hysterics story pure and simple.
    Lets put it this way - I agree that Benghazi is a lot of smoke and not much fire. It was a complete cock-up but not a crime.

    I'm on the fence about the drones. If an American citizen is in a foreign nation and colluding with terrorists, it doesn't bother me. But frankly we're a hop, skip and a jump away from using them domestically. I don't care which party the President is at that point, it's wrong. I was uneasy about it when Bush was President, and I'm uneasy about it now, and frankly the left was all "OMFG" when Bush did it, and now is looking the other way.

    Wrong then, wrong now, and frankly both major parties are on the same side of the issue.


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    Re: U.S. acknowledges killing of four U.S. citizens in counterterrorism operations

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Probably about as much as the ones that voted for Romney. Neither party likes the Constitution when it gets in their way.
    "Probably" as much as the ones who voted for Romney? What evidence do you have for any of that?

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    Re: U.S. acknowledges killing of four U.S. citizens in counterterrorism operations

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Lets put it this way - I agree that Benghazi is a lot of smoke and not much fire. It was a complete cock-up but not a crime.

    I'm on the fence about the drones. If an American citizen is in a foreign nation and colluding with terrorists, it doesn't bother me. But frankly we're a hop, skip and a jump away from using them domestically. I don't care which party the President is at that point, it's wrong. I was uneasy about it when Bush was President, and I'm uneasy about it now, and frankly the left was all "OMFG" when Bush did it, and now is looking the other way.

    Wrong then, wrong now, and frankly both major parties are on the same side of the issue.
    I am way more than uneasy about it--I strenuously object to such criminal actions. Murder is a crime. Indictment and trial, due process, essentially forgives the murder charge.

    Neither Bush nor Obama have chosen the due process path in their murders. That's why Bush et al were convicted in absentia, in Malaysia, in accordance with international law. That's why travelling out of the country is no longer convenient for Dubya and a few others.

    This was all explained by Francis Boyle in an interview on WHDT and Next News Network.

    Sitting presidents are immune from being charged at the time, but after he leaves office Obama will be in the same boat as Bush--a convicted war criminal.

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    Re: U.S. acknowledges killing of four U.S. citizens in counterterrorism operations

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    "Probably" as much as the ones who voted for Romney? What evidence do you have for any of that?
    I understand that in your little world of "Republicans good, Democrats bad" the Republicans are never gulity of anything wrong. Historically, however, both parties have shown the willingness to wipe their ass with the Constitution when it gets in their way.


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    Re: U.S. acknowledges killing of four U.S. citizens in counterterrorism operations

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I understand that in your little world of "Republicans good, Democrats bad" the Republicans are never gulity of anything wrong.
    That's quite incorrect. When I make a charge against any person or group of people I try to have some evidence to support the claim. You have none.

    Historically, however, both parties have shown the willingness to wipe their ass with the Constitution when it gets in their way.
    Again, point to some evidence rather than making wild accusations in order to dismiss any allegations you feel might be questionable..

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    Re: U.S. acknowledges killing of four U.S. citizens in counterterrorism operations

    Sounds like four Americans who forfitted their constitutional rights when they chose to fight with a foreign force hostile to the United States.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: U.S. acknowledges killing of four U.S. citizens in counterterrorism operations

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Sounds like four Americans who forfitted their constitutional rights when they chose to fight with a foreign force hostile to the United States.
    Was it fighting, or just talking?

    Maybe an uppity muslim?

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    Re: U.S. acknowledges killing of four U.S. citizens in counterterrorism operations

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Was it fighting, or just talking?

    Maybe an uppity muslim?
    It doesn't matter if they were cooking red beans and rice, they were still serving with a foreign force that is hostile to The United States.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: U.S. acknowledges killing of four U.S. citizens in counterterrorism operations

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It doesn't matter if they were cooking red beans and rice, they were still serving with a foreign force that is hostile to The United States.
    Well, considering that AQ has been tight with CIA for decades, and that Colin Powell delivered a check for $40 some odd million to the Taliban in April 2001, which foreign force are you talking about? These days, pretty much all of them are hostile to the US. Of those that aren't working for us, they are probably all hostile.

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